Does Premiere Pro CS3 support DVCPROHD natively?

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Nik Manning

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Hello I am seriously considering making the switch to Premiere Pro CS3 from FCP on the mac and I need to know if it supports DVCPROHD without any third party help. A simple yes or no would help. Also does it Support DVCPRO50?
Thanks!
 
you can edit DVCPRO50 in most versions of premiere using the matrox codecs, but as far as anyone knows from what the site lists, it does not support DVCPRO HD. but.. it might.. they dont really specify, buit id have to say the answer is no since they dont list it. although raylight from dvfilm.com lets you use MXFs direct from the HVX just like any other file now, and its inexpensive. so in light of that i wouldnt let the fact that its supported inexpensively through third party software be your purchasing guide. I would go off its other features and workflow abilities with the entire rest of the adobe suite.
 
I called an Adobe tech rep a few days ago and asked this exact question. He replied that he could only assume at this point that DVCPRO HD would only be viable through Adobe OnLocation's (formerly Serious Magic DVRack HD) ability to wrap the .mxf file into an avi wrapper that Premiere can use. As far as he knew at this point, OnLocation support's it and will convert it to work with Premiere but Premiere will not natively support DVCPro HD without OnLocation.

He also said that he may be wrong and that there may be plans to include native support in Premiere before it's release in July. But at this point he has heard nothing to support that.

Since Adobe OnLocation is included with Premiere Pro you could essentially say that it does support DVCPro HD. I am currently using DVRack HD with both Edius Broadcast and Premiere Pro 2 and I am loving the DVRack/Premiere Pro workflow moreso than editing in Edius.
 
..very true. thanks for the info John :) if your not familiar with it Nik "onlocation" is a rebranding of the DVrack HD software formerly made by serious magic which has been aquired by adobe systems. .. so if you wanted to record direct to disk using the onlocation software, you can capture right from your HVX to DVCPRO HD minded file types for use in PPRO. but if your out and about shooting to P2, and they do not decide to inculde its support naitively within PPRO before its release.. its just as easy to buy raylight and just drop the plug-in into PPROs plugin folder. that all you have to do.. just copy the plugin and paste it there, and then PPRO will import open and play .mxfs from the HVX just like its opening an AVI or whatever else it supports naitively. you can drop and drag them to the timeline, or copy and paste them in or do whatever. it then recognizes .mxfs just like it does any other supported file. ..no special importing, handeling, or anything required from then on.
 
does anyone know the real reason Adobe isn't dealing with the DVCPRO HD format issue? why would they not support MXF files natively in the new Premiere CS3? Silly, maybe someone on the Panasonic side has an answer because Adobe is not talking.
Don't want a 3rd party solution, I want a natively intergraded solution!
RM
 
I will bet that if they don't end up supporting DVCPRO HD in Premiere CS3, it will be because it will cost them more money in buying third party codec rights than they figure it will be worth.

Maybe next year they'll buy Raylight out :)
 
There's no codec issue, they already have their own codec (from Serious Magic). As to why they didn't support MXF, that's the real head-scratcher...
 
Barry_Green said:
There's no codec issue, they already have their own codec (from Serious Magic). As to why they didn't support MXF, that's the real head-scratcher...
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Ahh yes... that is true. They do now own the Serious Magic codec so let's keep our fingers crossed that PPCS3 will support MXF natively within the app itself.
 
Barry_Green said:
There's no codec issue, they already have their own codec (from Serious Magic). As to why they didn't support MXF, that's the real head-scratcher...
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It's not a codec, it's a decoder. Remember we had this debate on the Sony forum? :)

Many man-months of work to get it where Raylight is today, plus it would be undercutting their friends at Matrox so I would advise anyone not to hold your breath.
 
Yes, it's a DEC, not a CO-DEC. True. But the co part would only truly come into play if wanting to master back out to DVCPRO-HD; for those who want to edit the footage and master to DVD or blu-ray or HD-DVD, they wouldn't truly *need* the CO part.

I'm just saying, the reason it doesn't support MXF files on the timeline isn't because of the red herring that certain people like to throw out there about licensing or fees. They already have the tools that they'd need to be able to support the DVCPRO-HD files on the timeline. Not to render back out, no -- for that they'd need Raylight.
 
John Froton said:
Isn't "codec" a hyphenation of coder/decoder?

I thought a codec is a decoder.
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Exactly -- it's CO and DEC. Serious Magic only made the DECoder, they didn't make an enCOder (aka COmpressor). Raylight did. Raylight is a full-fledged CODEC, whereas Serious Magic's is only a decompresser.
 
I use raylight to convert my DVCPro HD Footage into AVIs that premiere pro and after effects seem to love. No loss of color depth or resolution.
 
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