do you think they will ever offer a certification in Vegas

Give me fifty bucks and I'll send you a certificate. wink. wink.
Seriously though it would be nice if our industry had certifications ala the I.T. industry.
If for nothing else for ensured compentancy. That's a big one for many potential clients
who are accustomed to other industries were classroom training, workshops, and certifications
combine to a form a complete understanding of field. There is a huge lack of this in video.

brian wells
 
thisiswells said:
Give me fifty bucks and I'll send you a certificate. wink. wink.
Seriously though it would be nice if our industry had certifications ala the I.T. industry.
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Except for the Cisco and probably Oracle, IT certs are a joke.

Honestly, now. Do you know anyone who doesn't have an MSCE?

Dan
 
GenJerDan said:
Except for the Cisco and probably Oracle, IT certs are a joke.

Honestly, now. Do you know anyone who doesn't have an MSCE?

Dan
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Ain't that the damn truth. Cisco certs *usually* mean something still. As well as Oracle. With networking and database certs, there is an assload of hands on problems you have to deal with in order to fully comprehend and understand what is going on. M$ certs have for the most part been a *joke* for years. I think Cisco still has some integrity left. Other than CCNA.....how many CCNP and CCIE's do you know? Very few I would assume. The top tier certifications like CCIE (Cisco Certified Internetwork Engineer) take YEARS of on-the-job learning and problem solving as well as rigourous testing. If you ever attain CCIE status, you will be commanding an average salary of 100k per year. You ARE a NETWORK ENGINEER at this point.

I hope to be CCIE one day (Or a million-dollar Director / Actor...whichever comes first!!). I'm on my way up with CCNA first though.

Back on Track.....

I think the reason there are *NOT* certifications in this industry is because it requires alot of ARTISTIC choice rather than a simple *RIGHT OR WRONG* answer, as is the case "usually" in the IT industry.

It would be harder to certify someone based on their creative skills / artistic merit in editing versus their *you know it or you don't* idiology of Information Technology I think.

However, I think it would be cool to have *certificates of proficiency* that would at least say "Hey, I know how to use FCP, Avid, etc." This might help those who are looking to employ a reputable editor.

~reservoir~
 
GenJerDan said:
Honestly, now. Do you know anyone who doesn't have an MSCE?
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Yup! Me!

I agree with you... I know so many 'certified' J2EE 'engineers' that couldn't program their way out of a wet paper bag, it's scary. Certification is another way of saying "I don't know what the hell I am doing, so I need a piece of paper to hide behind."

By the same token, I find that computer science graduates are the least useful people in corporate IT departments. They don't think like business information people, they think like database architects and compiler designers. I don't know about you, but I don't need compiler designers on my team. I need someone who can read user requirements, write comprehensible analysis/design documents, and translate them into code. Really hard to come by, actually...
 
Who is "they" when you ask the question? You mean Sony? Would it hold up in the industry? Vegas is so far from a complete end to end solution cause it lacks some important features that who would really want to claim they are licensed?

Aaron

BTW: I use Vegas and have for a couple of years. It's good, but it does somethings that REALLY are unacceptable for a product in it's range (Anyone say "Media Management?")
 
reservoir said:
Ain't that the damn truth. Cisco certs *usually* mean something still. As well as Oracle. With networking and database certs, there is an assload of hands on problems you have to deal with in order to fully comprehend and understand what is going on. M$ certs have for the most part been a *joke* for years. I think Cisco still has some integrity left. Other than CCNA.....how many CCNP and CCIE's do you know? Very few I would assume. The top tier certifications like CCIE (Cisco Certified Internetwork Engineer) take YEARS of on-the-job learning and problem solving as well as rigourous testing. If you ever attain CCIE status, you will be commanding an average salary of 100k per year. You ARE a NETWORK ENGINEER at this point.

I hope to be CCIE one day (Or a million-dollar Director / Actor...whichever comes first!!). I'm on my way up with CCNA first though.

Back on Track.....

I think the reason there are *NOT* certifications in this industry is because it requires alot of ARTISTIC choice rather than a simple *RIGHT OR WRONG* answer, as is the case "usually" in the IT industry.

It would be harder to certify someone based on their creative skills / artistic merit in editing versus their *you know it or you don't* idiology of Information Technology I think.

However, I think it would be cool to have *certificates of proficiency* that would at least say "Hey, I know how to use FCP, Avid, etc." This might help those who are looking to employ a reputable editor.

~reservoir~
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There are certifications in photoshop, avid , after effects and I think also final cut. If you want to teach they help unless you are published. I agree for editing work they are useless.
 
I don't care if nothing changes in Vegas 6 except media management..OK, I do care, but for a long time now it's been not just pitiful, but buggy. Media moves around the media bins and you lose your clips. Not a good thing.

But yes, I'm excited about 6.

Aaron
 
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You've lost clips? Really?

Of the thousands of clips I've put through Vegas, I've never lost one.

However, some Windows viruses *will* move stuff around . . .
 
By lose clips, I mean they're not deleted, they get lost in other bins. I think it's a side effect of opening a clip in the trimmer. It might move it to the currently selected bin when you do. Whatever the reason, it's stupid and an endless source of frustration.

Aaron
 
Well, could be. I just use Windows Explorer as my media managment. You can drag from the Explorer window straight to the timeline, so it works for me.
 
But try making a subclip. When you do, you do not get a file on disk, but a file in the media manager. From there you're buggered.

Aaron
 
To answer the question originally posted, YES, there will be Vegas certification offered starting later this year.
 
Jubal28 said:
To answer the question originally posted, YES, there will be Vegas certification offered starting later this year.
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Jim, any update on this?

I actually got inspired to search for this old thread after reading this:

http://www.dvxuser.com/V3/showthread.php?p=288995#post288995

I am at a point in my professional life where I've pretty much had it with corporate environment (I've worked with Fortune 500 companies for last twelve years, and it's starting to tire me). It's been a great ride (the PC revolution and the OO revolution), but for last three years, I've been doing nothing but maintenance. Talk about MORALE KILLER!

So, I am looking for something more creative. I thought becoming an editor was one potential route for me. I've been using Vegas for last two years and I love it, but I would like to become more profficient in it - in case it picks up as a 'professional' editing tool.

Jerry
 
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