DIY micro35 kit (New Footage!)
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redrock
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Re: DIY micro35 kit (New Footage!)
Word. I'm feeling you on that one. This day-job stuff is really getting in the way. But if quit my day-job, you might not be able to use your credit card to get gas at the gas station anymore.... Then on top of that, I've got a huge gig this weekend with my band... Go figure.
I'm going through with this whole thing. I can't wait to get on the Follow Focus and the Matte Box. I've already got several ideas on these...
Word. I'm feeling you on that one. This day-job stuff is really getting in the way. But if quit my day-job, you might not be able to use your credit card to get gas at the gas station anymore.... Then on top of that, I've got a huge gig this weekend with my band... Go figure.
I'm going through with this whole thing. I can't wait to get on the Follow Focus and the Matte Box. I've already got several ideas on these...
BLUESPIDER
DVXuser Ninja
Re: DIY micro35 kit (New Footage!)
The anticipation! I'm ready to buy!! ;D
The anticipation! I'm ready to buy!! ;D
J.R. Hudson
Spirit Animal
Re: DIY micro35 kit (New Footage!)
[quote author=JasonFox link=board=Links;num=1097454631;start=150#158 date=01/24/05 at 20:11:03]That's damn, dirty apes to you, John. It's a madhouse! A madhouse!
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LMAO!
[quote author=JasonFox link=board=Links;num=1097454631;start=150#158 date=01/24/05 at 20:11:03]That's damn, dirty apes to you, John. It's a madhouse! A madhouse!
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LMAO!
Kirk Gillock
Rebel with a cause
Re: DIY micro35 kit (New Footage!)
redrock - Do you have a finance program? I can afford $9/mo for 100 months. ;D
What lens do you suggest for best results, but doesn't break the bank? (Keep in mind, my bank is smaller than others.)
Good work and excellent results. Thank you for making indie filmmaking even more affordable and possible,
PK
redrock - Do you have a finance program? I can afford $9/mo for 100 months. ;D
What lens do you suggest for best results, but doesn't break the bank? (Keep in mind, my bank is smaller than others.)
Good work and excellent results. Thank you for making indie filmmaking even more affordable and possible,
PK
redrock
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Re: DIY micro35 kit (New Footage!)
I'm trying brother!
You should ask Barry Green about the lenses. He seems to be the guru on this.
On another note, would it be interesting to anyone (besides myself) to be able to electronically add adjustable (16x9, etc.) framing lines to the video signal coming out of the camera for monitor previewing?
Also, I've updated the micro35.com site with some older footage...
I'm trying brother!
You should ask Barry Green about the lenses. He seems to be the guru on this.
On another note, would it be interesting to anyone (besides myself) to be able to electronically add adjustable (16x9, etc.) framing lines to the video signal coming out of the camera for monitor previewing?
Also, I've updated the micro35.com site with some older footage...
Barry_Green
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Re: DIY micro35 kit (New Footage!)
[quote author=disjecta link=board=Links;num=1097454631;start=150#153 date=01/24/05 at 15:10:40]I'I'm assuming this is possible but what I'm trying to figure out is what the telephoto range equivalency is.
For instance, my wife has a 400mm EOS lens and I'm wondering what my focal length would be with the DVX zoomed in to max, with this adapter and the 400mm lens.[/quote]
A still-camera lens, when mounted on a movie camera, looks more "telephoto" than it does when mounted on a still camera. So while your 400mm lens will still be 400mm whether mounted on a DVX/mini35 or on your EOS, the field of view will be different.
Look at it this way: the DVX's stock lens is said to be the equivalent of 325mm on a still camera. But on a movie camera, it's the equivalent of a 189mm lens. So you can expect an increase in magnification of somewhere around 70%, so your 400mm lens, when mounted on a properly-engineered mini35 type of device, will give you a field of view equivalent to about a 680mm lens on a 35mm still camera.
[quote author=disjecta link=board=Links;num=1097454631;start=150#153 date=01/24/05 at 15:10:40]I'I'm assuming this is possible but what I'm trying to figure out is what the telephoto range equivalency is.
For instance, my wife has a 400mm EOS lens and I'm wondering what my focal length would be with the DVX zoomed in to max, with this adapter and the 400mm lens.[/quote]
A still-camera lens, when mounted on a movie camera, looks more "telephoto" than it does when mounted on a still camera. So while your 400mm lens will still be 400mm whether mounted on a DVX/mini35 or on your EOS, the field of view will be different.
Look at it this way: the DVX's stock lens is said to be the equivalent of 325mm on a still camera. But on a movie camera, it's the equivalent of a 189mm lens. So you can expect an increase in magnification of somewhere around 70%, so your 400mm lens, when mounted on a properly-engineered mini35 type of device, will give you a field of view equivalent to about a 680mm lens on a 35mm still camera.
mastermind
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yep DEFINATELY interested in adjustable framing lines. Especially if we can blur the unused portion of the frame but still have it transparent. That would be really cool.
yep DEFINATELY interested in adjustable framing lines. Especially if we can blur the unused portion of the frame but still have it transparent. That would be really cool.
gritsngumbo
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I'm fascinated with the concept of using the 35mm lens with the video cameras. Sorry if this is a dumb question, but will auto focus lenses work or does it need to be a manual focus lens? I have several Nikon 35 mm lenses but they are all auto focus. Thanks.
I'm fascinated with the concept of using the 35mm lens with the video cameras. Sorry if this is a dumb question, but will auto focus lenses work or does it need to be a manual focus lens? I have several Nikon 35 mm lenses but they are all auto focus. Thanks.
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Is the distance between the imagers and the ground glass housing the minimum distance to achieve focus? I'm assuming the camera is in macro to the rear of the gg?
I'd like to purchase the instructions and parts but have some questions on compatability with matteboxes - sp. the 4x4 hard shade Cavision units. Do you use 15mm rods?
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Is the distance between the imagers and the ground glass housing the minimum distance to achieve focus? I'm assuming the camera is in macro to the rear of the gg?
I'd like to purchase the instructions and parts but have some questions on compatability with matteboxes - sp. the 4x4 hard shade Cavision units. Do you use 15mm rods?
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mastermind
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Re: DIY micro35 kit (New Footage!)
redrock, you're right it's actually darkened. so what do you have in mind?
redrock, you're right it's actually darkened. so what do you have in mind?
fomoDVXpal
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Re: DIY micro35 kit (New Footage!)
I everyone ;D
I’ll be getting one of these babies as soon as some more footage is shown.
PAL (25p) is ok right?
Some people have mentioned that they are to use Juan's (http://www.reel-stream.com) uncompressed HD option.
...thing is, is that is a 16:9 compulsory system. You can shoot in 4:3 but then you will need to crop and lose lines.
I was wondering, if I want to combine these systems (the DVX will either look like Frankenstein's monster or something really professionally impressive) can I attach the 16:9 lens on the 35mm (or whatever it is) still camera lens that the mini35 needs?
Seems like a lot of glass.
Can I get a lens to put on the mini35 that is already 16:9?
I everyone ;D
I’ll be getting one of these babies as soon as some more footage is shown.
PAL (25p) is ok right?
Some people have mentioned that they are to use Juan's (http://www.reel-stream.com) uncompressed HD option.
...thing is, is that is a 16:9 compulsory system. You can shoot in 4:3 but then you will need to crop and lose lines.
I was wondering, if I want to combine these systems (the DVX will either look like Frankenstein's monster or something really professionally impressive) can I attach the 16:9 lens on the 35mm (or whatever it is) still camera lens that the mini35 needs?
Seems like a lot of glass.
Can I get a lens to put on the mini35 that is already 16:9?
Re: DIY micro35 kit (New Footage!)
fomoDVXpal: I am not aware of any 16:9 35mm lenses. I'm pretty sure they don't exist.
You could try to combine the anamorphic with a 35mm lens but I doubt it would work. They probably have different focal planes.
I'm currently in the process of manufacturing a "rear anamorphic" system -both 16:9 and 2.35. All it would be is a simple little adapter between the lens and the 35mm setup. If there is enough interest I may manufacture some to sell.
fomoDVXpal: I am not aware of any 16:9 35mm lenses. I'm pretty sure they don't exist.
You could try to combine the anamorphic with a 35mm lens but I doubt it would work. They probably have different focal planes.
I'm currently in the process of manufacturing a "rear anamorphic" system -both 16:9 and 2.35. All it would be is a simple little adapter between the lens and the 35mm setup. If there is enough interest I may manufacture some to sell.
fomoDVXpal
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thanks Shaw. as you can tell i have no idea what i'm talking about so that was useful.
yes, if you get an anamorphic adapter going then the Frankenstein unit will evolve yet again and we will buy.
thanks Shaw. as you can tell i have no idea what i'm talking about so that was useful.
yes, if you get an anamorphic adapter going then the Frankenstein unit will evolve yet again and we will buy.
Barry_Green
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Re: DIY micro35 kit (New Footage!)
[quote author=Shaw link=board=Links;num=1097454631;start=165#170 date=01/25/05 at 06:27:12]Assuming you use the cinema sized 35mm frame Barry? Just checking to make sure I understand![/quote]
Yes, that post was referencing the use of still camera lenses on a movie camera (or mini35, which *should* be using the 22x16mm frame size). With a homemade mini35, I guess you should verify what frame size is actually being projected on the ground glass and what size the camera is seeing.
[quote author=Shaw link=board=Links;num=1097454631;start=165#170 date=01/25/05 at 06:27:12]Assuming you use the cinema sized 35mm frame Barry? Just checking to make sure I understand![/quote]
Yes, that post was referencing the use of still camera lenses on a movie camera (or mini35, which *should* be using the 22x16mm frame size). With a homemade mini35, I guess you should verify what frame size is actually being projected on the ground glass and what size the camera is seeing.