DIY micro35 kit (New Footage!)
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DEATHTOPRINT
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Re: DIY micro35 kit (New Footage!)
bvalente, I'll be the first one to "no ****" that last request.
bvalente, I'll be the first one to "no ****" that last request.
Re: DIY micro35 kit (New Footage!)
Thinking out loud on the anamorphic questions:
Is there a reason you couldn't use standard anamorphic prime and variable lenses with a Micro/Mini35 with a PL mount? If the image is being focused onto the GG, doesn't it stand to reason that you could shoot spherical or anamorphic?
Would the resulting GG image be squeezed smaller than what the passive imager is focused on? What focal length is the DVX set to against the GG? If it is set at one end of its range - presumably telephoto - then perhaps the focal length could be altered and refocused for use with anamorphic glass?
Seems to me that there is more flexibility and useful range in a built-for-purpose piece of anamorphic glass than what you get in an aftermarket adapter?
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Thinking out loud on the anamorphic questions:
Is there a reason you couldn't use standard anamorphic prime and variable lenses with a Micro/Mini35 with a PL mount? If the image is being focused onto the GG, doesn't it stand to reason that you could shoot spherical or anamorphic?
Would the resulting GG image be squeezed smaller than what the passive imager is focused on? What focal length is the DVX set to against the GG? If it is set at one end of its range - presumably telephoto - then perhaps the focal length could be altered and refocused for use with anamorphic glass?
Seems to me that there is more flexibility and useful range in a built-for-purpose piece of anamorphic glass than what you get in an aftermarket adapter?
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bvalente
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Re: DIY micro35 kit (New Footage!)
With the caveat that I assume pl-mount anamorphic lenses are big $$, for me it defeats the purpose of the micro35. I am assuming the micro comes in around $495 (I don't feel confident I can build my own
), so plus a $70 35mm lens and (I'm guessing here) a $300 anamorphic adapter, I'm in business. Of course, I hope someone will prove me wrong on the cost assumptions...
With the caveat that I assume pl-mount anamorphic lenses are big $$, for me it defeats the purpose of the micro35. I am assuming the micro comes in around $495 (I don't feel confident I can build my own
), so plus a $70 35mm lens and (I'm guessing here) a $300 anamorphic adapter, I'm in business. Of course, I hope someone will prove me wrong on the cost assumptions...
bvalente
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Re: DIY micro35 kit (New Footage!)
check out www.micro35.com - I don't think they are taking orders for the product yet but you can pre-order the guide
check out www.micro35.com - I don't think they are taking orders for the product yet but you can pre-order the guide
Re: DIY micro35 kit (New Footage!)
overland: You could certainly use anamorphic primes on a mini35 type setup. There are, however, several problems that arise:
1) None are 16:9
2) The compression of 35mm anamorphic primes is 2x. This will give a 2.66:1 anamorphic image - quite a bit more stretched than cinemascope.
3) Cost
4) DOF issues. Since most people adopt these adapters for the DOF of 35mm film using a real anamorphic prime will limit your ability to choose aperture, shutter speed etc (for the same reasons as the Panasonic anamorphic adapter).
Not many films are actually shot anamorphic (via anamorphic primes that is) these days. Most everthing is done on super35. Partly due to cost and partly due to the better spherical lenses (and wider range) that you can get. Using a true anamorphic prime would give a look that, while absolutely a 35mm look, wouldn't be something we are used to seeing and to a degree defeats the purpose of the adapter.
Can't tell if this was meant in relation to the micro35 or my anamorphic idea. Again, I have no real estimate as to when I will finish. This is first and foremost an experiment for my interest. If I end up making some to sell (there seems to be some interest at least and it is likely) this will be a secondary concern. My point? This isn't being designed first and foremost as a commercial product.
[quote[Are you planning on making this lens for the micro35 or a mini 35 design of your own. I am not quite sure how this would mount to the micro35? [/quote]
It will work with any 35mm adapter you can get your hands on (including but not limited to Redrocks and the P&S Mini35). The device will sit right behind the 35mm lens and in front of the body. You could even use the adapter for still photography given that you use the same mount. Each end of the device will be customized with a 35mm mount of ones choosing so it will be as simple as snapping it on and off. Just as easy as changing a lens.
The only downside to this is that the adapter could only work with one type of 35mm mount. I'm looking at making the device with interchangable mounting pieces (attached with screws). This way all one would need do is acquire a different mounting set rather than an entirely new adapter for use on a different lens mount.
overland: You could certainly use anamorphic primes on a mini35 type setup. There are, however, several problems that arise:
1) None are 16:9
2) The compression of 35mm anamorphic primes is 2x. This will give a 2.66:1 anamorphic image - quite a bit more stretched than cinemascope.
3) Cost
4) DOF issues. Since most people adopt these adapters for the DOF of 35mm film using a real anamorphic prime will limit your ability to choose aperture, shutter speed etc (for the same reasons as the Panasonic anamorphic adapter).
Not many films are actually shot anamorphic (via anamorphic primes that is) these days. Most everthing is done on super35. Partly due to cost and partly due to the better spherical lenses (and wider range) that you can get. Using a true anamorphic prime would give a look that, while absolutely a 35mm look, wouldn't be something we are used to seeing and to a degree defeats the purpose of the adapter.
Can't tell if this was meant in relation to the micro35 or my anamorphic idea. Again, I have no real estimate as to when I will finish. This is first and foremost an experiment for my interest. If I end up making some to sell (there seems to be some interest at least and it is likely) this will be a secondary concern. My point? This isn't being designed first and foremost as a commercial product.
[quote[Are you planning on making this lens for the micro35 or a mini 35 design of your own. I am not quite sure how this would mount to the micro35? [/quote]
It will work with any 35mm adapter you can get your hands on (including but not limited to Redrocks and the P&S Mini35). The device will sit right behind the 35mm lens and in front of the body. You could even use the adapter for still photography given that you use the same mount. Each end of the device will be customized with a 35mm mount of ones choosing so it will be as simple as snapping it on and off. Just as easy as changing a lens.
The only downside to this is that the adapter could only work with one type of 35mm mount. I'm looking at making the device with interchangable mounting pieces (attached with screws). This way all one would need do is acquire a different mounting set rather than an entirely new adapter for use on a different lens mount.
fomoDVXpal
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Re: DIY micro35 kit (New Footage!)
I just bought myself some 35mm primes. here are the ad' details:
Canon FD MF Lenses
Canon 200mm f4
Canon 100mm f2.8
Vivitar 25mm f2 Wide Angle
2 x CFE Teleplus MC7
all I need now is a 50mm. looking to buy the Canon EOS EF 50mm f/1.8 II.
does anyone know if the EOS thread is the same as the older FD?
I just bought myself some 35mm primes. here are the ad' details:
Canon FD MF Lenses
Canon 200mm f4
Canon 100mm f2.8
Vivitar 25mm f2 Wide Angle
2 x CFE Teleplus MC7
all I need now is a 50mm. looking to buy the Canon EOS EF 50mm f/1.8 II.
does anyone know if the EOS thread is the same as the older FD?
bvalente
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Re: DIY micro35 kit (New Footage!)
Not me - I think there needs to be a fair amount of patience in this process. I am hopeful to see something soon (like all of us, I suspect) but I see this as cutting edge stuff. I always know the mini35 is a web site away if I'm really in need, though there are only a few thousand reasons why I'm not going down that path right now!
Not me - I think there needs to be a fair amount of patience in this process. I am hopeful to see something soon (like all of us, I suspect) but I see this as cutting edge stuff. I always know the mini35 is a web site away if I'm really in need, though there are only a few thousand reasons why I'm not going down that path right now!
Re: DIY micro35 kit (New Footage!)
Trust me you have not been taken in a scam, I know you have no reason to believe me but you have not.
bvalente the reason I went with FD lenses is that I had read that most of the lenses made for fd mount camera's were really sharp lenses especially the canon 50mm. So I went with those primes to keep res up. Once you see how you have to build the mount for FD's I think you will understand why it might be a good idea to use only one mount, but this is an outside perspective you may want ask redrock about the details.
Trust me you have not been taken in a scam, I know you have no reason to believe me but you have not.
bvalente the reason I went with FD lenses is that I had read that most of the lenses made for fd mount camera's were really sharp lenses especially the canon 50mm. So I went with those primes to keep res up. Once you see how you have to build the mount for FD's I think you will understand why it might be a good idea to use only one mount, but this is an outside perspective you may want ask redrock about the details.
redrock
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Re: DIY micro35 kit (New Footage!)
Hey guys,
Sorry for the delay in writing. I've been working my *ss of getting these things ready for production. Things are moving along GREAT!
The guides are coming! Don't give up! And for the big delay, I'm sending everyone that ordered/orders the guide a free GG and micro35 sticker!
As I mentioned above, The Micro35 Project is moving along very fast. It looks like there will be an Indie special coming up on some channel (don't know yet) that will highlight the micro35. There was also a writeup in Studio Monthly about the micro35 as well!
I just received some photos of the Micro35 being used by my buddies over at lunaticfringepictures.com. This is from a feature called "The Ancient". It is produced by Necroscopic Unlimited (www.spellcaster.addr.com) in association with American Movie Works.
www.micro35.com/oct19/micro35meter1.jpg
www.micro35.com/oct19/micro35_tim.jpg
Again, sorry about the delay, and THANK YOU Goober542 for covering for me while I'm running across the globe on business.
Thanks again guys!!
Micro35 is on the move!!!!
redrock
Hey guys,
Sorry for the delay in writing. I've been working my *ss of getting these things ready for production. Things are moving along GREAT!
The guides are coming! Don't give up! And for the big delay, I'm sending everyone that ordered/orders the guide a free GG and micro35 sticker!
As I mentioned above, The Micro35 Project is moving along very fast. It looks like there will be an Indie special coming up on some channel (don't know yet) that will highlight the micro35. There was also a writeup in Studio Monthly about the micro35 as well!
I just received some photos of the Micro35 being used by my buddies over at lunaticfringepictures.com. This is from a feature called "The Ancient". It is produced by Necroscopic Unlimited (www.spellcaster.addr.com) in association with American Movie Works.
www.micro35.com/oct19/micro35meter1.jpg
www.micro35.com/oct19/micro35_tim.jpg
Again, sorry about the delay, and THANK YOU Goober542 for covering for me while I'm running across the globe on business.
Thanks again guys!!
Micro35 is on the move!!!!
redrock
Re: DIY micro35 kit (New Footage!)
I just ordered your guide. Here's to hoping it comes sometime soon
[quote author=redrock link=board=Links;num=1097454631;start=360#374 date=03/04/05 at 13:17:58]
The guides are coming! Don't give up! And for the big delay, I'm sending everyone that ordered/orders the guide a free GG and micro35 sticker!
[/quote]
I'll remember this ;D
I just ordered your guide. Here's to hoping it comes sometime soon
[quote author=redrock link=board=Links;num=1097454631;start=360#374 date=03/04/05 at 13:17:58]
The guides are coming! Don't give up! And for the big delay, I'm sending everyone that ordered/orders the guide a free GG and micro35 sticker!
[/quote]
I'll remember this ;D
Coco Bermudez
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Re: DIY micro35 kit (New Footage!)
a free GG? for real....Is this the clear cd plastic or a circular filter glass?
a free GG? for real....Is this the clear cd plastic or a circular filter glass?
Coco Bermudez
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Re: DIY micro35 kit (New Footage!)
pictures looks good...what a monster of a set-up. Something like that would sure impress any client of mine. I am confused though. When the product is ready for sale...what can you purchase from redrock?
Does the micro35 come with matte box, follow focus and all the other goodies...can you purchase it all from him?
confused and salivating
pictures looks good...what a monster of a set-up. Something like that would sure impress any client of mine. I am confused though. When the product is ready for sale...what can you purchase from redrock?
Does the micro35 come with matte box, follow focus and all the other goodies...can you purchase it all from him?
confused and salivating
Re: DIY micro35 kit (New Footage!)
I have a question as well:
What's the highest shutter speed you have tested the device with? I like shooting with 1/250 on some occasions - sometimes more for effect.
Super8: I think, if you order a fully constructed version, it comes with the device itself and the support rods.
I have a question as well:
What's the highest shutter speed you have tested the device with? I like shooting with 1/250 on some occasions - sometimes more for effect.
Super8: I think, if you order a fully constructed version, it comes with the device itself and the support rods.