DIY 8mm to Digital transfer???

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Is there any other way to transfer 8mm to a digital format without resulting to recording a projected image?
 
If oyu can find a Eumig 610D (very old) you can set up a DIY projecting an aerial image to a condenser lens. The reason is that the Eumig 610 is a projector with a claw, that advances the film frame by frame at a speed you set. What I have tried to do before is use a projector with a claw (couldn't find a Eumig so I resorted to moviestuff.something I can't remember will find it again). I have a roller switch placed in a position so that the claw turns it with each frame. This switch is wired to the left mouse button that I have set on capture using software. What needs to be done furthermore is to add an opal diffuser inside to eliminate a hotspot. The image is then projected to a condenser lens, and you macro zoom in to that.

What I tried to alter is to have the roller switch trigger a DSLR's shutter, which wasn't too tough, and had that aimed to the condenser shooting raw at something like 2 fps. It's tedious, but it's the cleanest transfer DIY has to offer.

moviestuff.tv I think, his name is roger, he makes crazy projectors for transfer.

This is the only way I tried to do it, it worked but this was like 3 years ago. I'm visiting family, so when I get back to lebanon I can dig up some captures for you.

Hey from all of us in Beirut man. Hope all is well.
 
Yeah I assumed you could use a macro lens to do it as well, just had no idea how you would crank it?

Thanks for the hints!

I wonder if you could tear an 8mm projector down to the crank and spool, put a white piece of paper behind the film or a light panel, aim a macro lens at it and record that?
 
Keep in mind that the camera's shutter is a moving part, with only so many cycles before it wears out and has to be replaced.

I paid $300 to replace the shutter on a 10D once. You can look up the estimated number of cycles the shutter is good for on Canon's website, as it varies by camera. 100,000 is a commonly seen number for the total life of the shutter.

If you transfer 10 minutes of film at 24 fps in this fashion, you've just burned up 14,000 shutter cycles.
 
Yeah that was the problem as far as I was concerned. You can also capture off the lens using a firewire camera, the roller switch triggers the cursor to click on a frame by frame capture. There's software that does that roger of moviestuff can point you to it.

Wondering about the whitepaper/lightpanel, but still, you'd have to have a projector that goes frame by frame. Still trying to picture it.
 
Yeah that was the problem as far as I was concerned. You can also capture off the lens using a firewire camera, the roller switch triggers the cursor to click on a frame by frame capture. There's software that does that roger of moviestuff can point you to it.

Wondering about the whitepaper/lightpanel, but still, you'd have to have a projector that goes frame by frame. Still trying to picture it.
 
I would probably just do this with a RED and a Macro lens, that way I can roll out on a drive. That's what I meant by recording it.

If the projector is rolling at the proper speed, would the frame by frame be an issue?

I can't really picture it beyond the basic logic, please excuse my ignorance.
 
There was an article a few months back on Filmshooting.com or onsuper8.org ( I can't remember which ), but basically it was somebody using a Red with one of the moviestuff projectors. It might be worth asking over there.
 
The speed being the same is a given, but it's syncing the start if you wanna roll it at 24fps. How would you sync the start on both? And what shutter speed would one use in that case? Open up all the way? Frame by frame can eliminate blur, and flicker.
 
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