Director's whose Schtick you're tired of

[J.R. Hudson]

I'm not talking about the hype or popularity of a director. I am talking specifically of the way in which they do it. It could be thematic, it could be visually, anything ...

For me, it is Tim Burton

The man has made the same type of film (it seems) over and over and over. In side the mans head is this bizarre world of worms and claymation characters and big top circus tents.


Charlie and the Chocolate Factory - Have not seen it, do not want to see it, looks like more crap

Big Fish - A cute film but more of the same

Planet of the Apes - Crap

Sleepy Hollow - Finally a legitimate film from Burton minus the comic book
fantasy land. I wish he would would do more serious Horror

Mars Attacks! - Crap and more comic book crap at that. I don't want to see a comic book come to life. Sin City is an exception based purely on technique (Green screen)

Ed Wood - His best film ever made. Filmed as if were in 1959, Beautifully done.

Batman Returns - Crap

Edward Scissorhands - Nice film, but more of the same with outrageous set designs, bizarre characters, and that damn Elfman music.

Batman - Burton defines what was wrong with the Franchise from Day 1. After that, we have to sit through 3 more absurd comic book land films. Thank god Nolan comes around and makes it legitimate.

Beetle Juice - Original, fun, dark. And unfortunately the beginning of the same thing over and over and over.

Pee-wee's Big Adventure - A cute, fun (Kid's film?) that shows us the beginning of Burton's childbrain


Can the guy make a normal effin Movie without the gimmicky fantasy land he seems to be trapped in ?

I'm tired of this guys Schtick.

 

[Psynema]

Spielberg - sappy sellouts, one after the other.

Ditto for Ron Howard.

Ditto for James Cameron.

Very Sadly, Joel and Ethan Coen Post The Big Lebowski - ever since it's been one convuluted story after the other filled with the same annoying character actors all their films have.

M. Night Shyamalan

 

[Hairy Lime]

Burton's work may not be particularly varied, but I haven't grown tired of it. When he and Depp work together, it's pure magic. EDWARD SCISSORHANDS, ED WOOD, SLEEPY HOLLOW, CORPSE BRIDE, and CHARLIE AND THE CHOCOLATE FACTORY. Not a bad body of work for a director-actor combo. When he's not working with Depp I'm less impressed, though i did like BIG FISH.

Agree with M. Night. There's a twist. We get it already. C'mon. Move on.

And let me throw in Michael Bay. Being repetitive in the themes you explore is one thing. Being repetitively bad is even worse.

 

[Blaine]

Spielberg - sappy sellouts, one after the other.

Perhaps you could expound. John laid out clear reasoning with specific examples. I hardly think Munich, Minority Report, Saving Private Ryan nor Schindler's List could be called sappy sellouts.

Ditto for James Cameron.

Again, a blanket statement without specifics to back it up. I think what he's done up to and including Titanic were very good. I've gotten a little tired of his preoccupation with underwater exploration and anxiously await his return to form.

Very Sadly, Joel and Ethan Coen Post The Big Lebowski - ever since it's been one convuluted story after the other filled with the same annoying character actors all their films have.

I'll agree.

M. Night Shyamalan

Some like him, some don't. You obviously don't.

 

[The Machinist]

Ditto for James Cameron.

Do you mean all the underwater documentaries?

Cause he hasn't made a film since '97. ( But he has done more for the Titanic International PReservation Society than any man alive. P.S. my friend asked me to add that because he took umbrage to your statement. And he's a Titanic fanatic. (the actual boat not the movie))

Perhaps you could expound. John laid out clear reasoning with specific examples. I hardly think Munich, Minority Report, Saving Private Ryan nor Schindler's List could be called sappy sellouts.

You beat me to the punch Blaine!

Agree with M. Night. There's a twist. We get it already. C'mon. Move on.

And let me throw in Michael Bay. Being repetitive in the themes you explore is one thing. Being repetitively bad is even worse.

I'm totally with you on this.

 

[J.R. Hudson]

Spielberg and Sappy Sell-outs ?

Huh ?

SAPPY

Jaws
Raiders of the Lost Ark
The Color Purple
Empire of the Sun
Jurassic Park
Schindler's List
Amistad
Private Ryan
Minority Report
War fo the Worlds (The ending may have been convenient but the invasion is nothing short of scary intense)
Munich

 

[Aaron Marshall]

I'm not talking about the hype or popularity of a director. I am talking specifically of the way in which they do it. It could be thematic, it could be visually, anything ...

For me, it is Tim Burton

The man has made the same type of film (it seems) over and over and over. In side the mans head is this bizarre world of worms and claymation characters and big top circus tents.


Charlie and the Chocolate Factory - Have not seen it, do not want to see it, looks like more crap

Big Fish - A cute film but more of the same

Planet of the Apes - Crap

Sleepy Hollow - Finally a legitimate film from Burton minus the comic book
fantasy land. I wish he would would do more serious Horror

Mars Attacks! - Crap and more comic book crap at that. I don't want to see a comic book come to life. Sin City is an exception based purely on technique (Green screen)

Ed Wood - His best film ever made. Filmed as if were in 1959, Beautifully done.

Batman Returns - Crap

Edward Scissorhands - Nice film, but more of the same with outrageous set designs, bizarre characters, and that damn Elfman music.

Batman - Burton defines what was wrong with the Franchise from Day 1. After that, we have to sit through 3 more absurd comic book land films. Thank god Nolan comes around and makes it legitimate.

Beetle Juice - Original, fun, dark. And unfortunately the beginning of the same thing over and over and over.

Pee-wee's Big Adventure - A cute, fun (Kid's film?) that shows us the beginning of Burton's childbrain


Can the guy make a normal effin Movie without the gimmicky fantasy land he seems to be trapped in ?

I'm tired of this guys Schtick.

I liked Burton's Batman 100000 times better than Nolan's film, and Zimmer's crappy score. Elfman's score for Batman is one of my favorites.

Batman Returns - I don't like this one as much as the original, but it still kicks the hell out of "Batman Begins" in my opinion.

Edward Scissorhands - Damn! You didn't like this film?!!! I adore it. I think it's one of Burton's best, if not THE best by him.

Charlie and the Chocolate Factory - I watched this on a jet coming back from aussie. I wasn't expecting much. I liked it. It wasn't as good as the original, but in other ways it had its own unique voice.

Sleepy Hollow - Greatness

Ed Wood - Great in some odd way.

Planet of the Apes - Crap

Big Fish - I dig it, though not his best

Pee Wee - This is probably mostly from Paul Reuben and Phil Hartman's head than anything else. It's fun.

Beetle Juice - not the best, but I still like the vibe

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I'm sick and tired of M. Night Shyamalama-ding-dong

His movies are well made but the layer of hype I get sick of hearing is how "deep" the guy is. His entire family consists of doctors...yeah he had it really rough. I just see him as some spoiled rich kid that's now even richer because people are buying his pseudo "deep" BS.

I loved the Sixth Sense. I was very excited about M. Night showing up on the scene after that film. I was very stoked to go see "Unbreakable". I even argued why it didn't suck after the film was over with my friends. Then I realized after "Signs" I was getting hypnotized into the Shyamalama-ding-dong self indulgent world. I didn't see the Village for quite a while, when I did it pissed me off to no damned end. End, end, end, what's that unfamiliar word? It didn't have an ending.

I refuse to see Lady in the Water. I gather from the reviews many people are tired of this director's shtick. I think he could do a great job it he would start doing other writers work. I'd would probably go see his version of Harry Potter with some level excitement. I think on a technical level he's a good director.

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I don't like anything associated with Jerry Bruckheimer. It makes me physically ill. I hate his corny, one liner films with some equally corny composer hired to do the score. I hate his CSI shows on TV and anything like them. I like to call him Jerry Bruckhymen because he is a pu&#@ - MEOW!!!

 

[J.R. Hudson]

To be clear; i really enjoyed Edward Scissorhands. It was the more of the same I was hammering on!

--

M Knight

I can totally see why this guy is losing a fanbase. But, I will see Lady for Paul Giamatti (he rules)

--

Bruckheimer (None of these?) G A S P !


Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest
National Treasure
King Arthur
Bad Boys II
Veronica Guerin
Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl
Black Hawk Down
Pearl Harbor
Remember the Titans
Gone in Sixty Seconds
Enemy of the State
Armageddon
Con Air
The Rock
Dangerous Minds
Crimson Tide
Bad Boys
Days of Thunder
Beverly Hills Cop II
Beverly Hills Cop
Flashdance

 

[Mark Harris]

Burton's work may not be particularly varied, but I haven't grown tired of it. When he and Depp work together, it's pure magic. EDWARD SCISSORHANDS, ED WOOD, SLEEPY HOLLOW, CORPSE BRIDE, and CHARLIE AND THE CHOCOLATE FACTORY. Not a bad body of work for a director-actor combo. When he's not working with Depp I'm less impressed, though i did like BIG FISH.

Agree with M. Night. There's a twist. We get it already. C'mon. Move on.

And let me throw in Michael Bay. Being repetitive in the themes you explore is one thing. Being repetitively bad is even worse.

I agree that Burton is far from being tired. His movies sometimes fail in my eyes, but mainly because they often reach too far, especially because they are tied to studios. I sometimes wish he would make smaller films (budget-wise), with less studio overhead, and really go off the hook with them.

Michael Bay expores themes???????? News to me

 

[Mark Harris]

To be clear; i really enjoyed Edward Scissorhands. It was the more of the same I was hammering on!

--

M Knight

I can totally see why this guy is losing a fanbase. But, I will see Lady for Paul Giamatti (he rules)

--

Bruckheimer (None of these?) G A S P !


Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest
National Treasure
King Arthur
Bad Boys II
Veronica Guerin
Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl
Black Hawk Down
Pearl Harbor
Remember the Titans
Gone in Sixty Seconds
Enemy of the State
Armageddon
Con Air
The Rock
Dangerous Minds
Crimson Tide
Bad Boys
Days of Thunder
Beverly Hills Cop II
Beverly Hills Cop
Flashdance

This is a joke, right? Besides Veronica Guerin, and Beverly Hills Cop (THE FIRST ONE), these movies are universally junk. And even BHC is a guilty pleasure. I haven't see Remember the Titans, so maybe that one too. But Bad Boys? Armageddon? You hate Mars Attacks, but can actually sit through Armageddon with a straight face?????

 

[J.R. Hudson]

A joke ? Universally junk ? Do you people actually think before replying ?

Let us explore your outlook on universal junk

1.Flashdance - $90,463,574
A pop phenomenon. Not a very deep film; but denying it's influence and success is, well, denial

2. Beverly Hills Cop II - $153,665,036
Outgrosses the orginal and Murphy skyrockets in stardom. Directed by T Scott. Far from junk

3. Days of Thunder - $82,670,733

4. Bad Boys - $65,647,413
Will Smith becomes a stud

5. Crimson Tide - $91,387,195
Who calls this film junk ? Hackman, Washington .. Come on

6. Dangerous Minds - $84,919,401

7. The Rock - $134,069,511
Widely considered Bay's best film

8. Con Air - $101,117,573

9. Armegeddon - $201,578,182

10. Enemy of the State - $111,549,836

11. Gone in 60 Sixty Seconds - $101,643,008

12. Remember the Titans - $115,648,585

13 Pearl Harbor - $198,539,855

14. Black Hawk Down - $108,638,745
A guilty pleasure ? This is one of the finest combat films ever made (no matter the agenda) Nominated for 4 Oscars (Winning 2 for Editing and Sound)

15. Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl - $305,411,224
Depp gets an Oscar nod and you all this junk ? What the ........................ ?

16. Bad Boy II - $138,540,870

17. King Arthur - $51,877,963
Finally a film on this list that fails to live up to expectations ($$)

18. National Treasure - $173,005,002
What a nice surprise this film was

19. Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest - $402,975,626
Have not seen


None of these are fine art or academy award winning material but one cannot deny the popularity and box office sucess of thse films.

These films are not the freak accident of a White Chicks but solid Hollywood Popcorn films.

You are in the minority on this one. And yeah, Armegeddon owns Mars Attacks. You can proclaim them as junk; your opinion of course. But there comes a time when one must look at the facts and ask themselves 'Am I one of the few?'

Universally Junk ? What universe are you living in ?

* Films in Green I would vouch for
* Films in Orange I can live without

 

[Isaac_Brody]

Kevin Smith is definitely on this list.

George Romero too.


I don't mind Tim Burton having a quirky offbeat style. I think his problem comes from the projects he chooses. The Nightmare before Christmas is awesome, and Beetlejuice is classic. But when you get him a piece of **** script like Planet of the Apes, it's just a waste of his talent. There's no one else quite like Tim Burton, and maybe we're faulting him for having a distinct style. Spielberg has a very distinct style and you can tell when you're watching his films. I think that's a good thing.

 

[Pen Cap Chew]

A joke ? Universally junk ? Do you people actually think before replying ?

Let us explore your outlook on universal junk

1.Flashdance - $90,463,574
A pop phenomenon. Not a very deep film; but denying it's influence and success is, well, denial

2. Beverly Hills Cop II - $153,665,036
Outgrosses the orginal and Murphy skyrockets in stardom. Directed by T Scott. Far from junk

3. Days of Thunder - $82,670,733

4. Bad Boys - $65,647,413
Will Smith becomes a stud

5. Crimson Tide - $91,387,195
Who calls this film junk ? Hackman, Washington .. Come on

6. Dangerous Minds - $84,919,401

7. The Rock - $134,069,511
Widely considered Bay's best film

8. Con Air - $101,117,573

9. Armegeddon - $201,578,182

10. Enemy of the State - $111,549,836

11. Gone in 60 Sixty Seconds - $101,643,008

12. Remember the Titans - $115,648,585

13 Pearl Harbor - $198,539,855

14. Black Hawk Down - $108,638,745
A guilty pleasure ? This is one of the finest combat films ever made (no matter the agenda) Nominated for 4 Oscars (Winning 2 for Editing and Sound)

15. Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl - $305,411,224
Depp gets an Oscar nod and you all this junk ? What the ........................ ?

16. Bad Boy II - $138,540,870

17. King Arthur - $51,877,963
Finally a film on this list that fails to live up to expectations ($$)

18. National Treasure - $173,005,002
What a nice surprise this film was

19. Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest - $402,975,626
Have not seen


Universally Junk ? What universe are you living in ?

* Films in Green I would vouch for
* Films in Orange I can live without

Well they are mostly junk movies, have to agree. Box-office success doesn't mean much. Most films that do fantastic financially are usually not worth seeing. Kids and teenagers pump up the bulk of box-office.

 

[ExtremeSleuth]

A joke ? Universally junk ? Do you people actually think before replying ?

Let us explore your outlook on universal junk

1.Flashdance - $90,463,574
A pop phenomenon. Not a very deep film; but denying it's influence and success is, well, denial

2. Beverly Hills Cop II - $153,665,036
Outgrosses the orginal and Murphy skyrockets in stardom. Directed by T Scott. Far from junk

3. Days of Thunder - $82,670,733

4. Bad Boys - $65,647,413
Will Smith becomes a stud

5. Crimson Tide - $91,387,195
Who calls this film junk ? Hackman, Washington .. Come on

6. Dangerous Minds - $84,919,401

7. The Rock - $134,069,511
Widely considered Bay's best film

8. Con Air - $101,117,573

9. Armegeddon - $201,578,182

10. Enemy of the State - $111,549,836

11. Gone in 60 Sixty Seconds - $101,643,008

12. Remember the Titans - $115,648,585

13 Pearl Harbor - $198,539,855

14. Black Hawk Down - $108,638,745
A guilty pleasure ? This is one of the finest combat films ever made (no matter the agenda) Nominated for 4 Oscars (Winning 2 for Editing and Sound)

15. Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl - $305,411,224
Depp gets an Oscar nod and you all this junk ? What the ........................ ?

16. Bad Boy II - $138,540,870

17. King Arthur - $51,877,963
Finally a film on this list that fails to live up to expectations ($$)

18. National Treasure - $173,005,002
What a nice surprise this film was

19. Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest - $402,975,626
Have not seen


None of these are fine art or academy award winning material but one cannot deny the popularity and box office sucess of thse films.

These films are not the freak accident of a White Chicks but solid Hollywood Popcorn films.

You are in the minority on this one. And yeah, Armegeddon owns Mars Attacks. You can proclaim them as junk; your opinion of course. But there comes a time when one must look at the facts and ask themselves 'Am I one of the few?'

Universally Junk ? What universe are you living in ?

* Films in Green I would vouch for
* Films in Orange I can live without

I agree John. The only movies I didn't think were that good were King Arthur and Gone In 60 Seconds. King Arthur was OK. Coulda been better IMO. But 60 Seconds was bad IMHO. Enemy of the State, both Pirates, Armageddon, National Treasure, and the rest of the list were good films.

One director I'm tired of... Uwe Boll LMAO. oh and Eli Roth both just suck IMO

 

[Psynema]

Spielberg and Sappy Sell-outs ?

Huh ?

SAPPY

Jaws
Raiders of the Lost Ark
The Color Purple
Empire of the Sun
Jurassic Park
Schindler's List
Amistad
Private Ryan
Minority Report
War fo the Worlds (The ending may have been convenient but the invasion is nothing short of scary intense)
Munich

What's with the big font? Screaming for attention?

You conveniently left a few titles off that list my friend LOL.

 

[ece]

I can totally see why this guy is losing a fanbase. But, I will see Lady for Paul Giamatti (he rules)

Giamatti in Sideways? That film sucked more than Lady in the Water. Who cares about the awards it won that can't be argued because you'd have to defend horrible films like American Beauty and Adaptation. Blah!

Directors I don't get. Hand's down it's WOODY ALLEN! Talk about a Schtick. I just don't get it.

The man is strange, strange, strange. I'm tired of him shuffling around in his fuddy duddy clothes and stuttering his lame dialog. Woody Allen is responsible for some of the SUCKIEST films of all time, ALL TIME!

 

[J.R. Hudson]

Well they are mostly junk movies, have to agree. Box-office success doesn't mean much. Most films that do fantastic financially are usually not worth seeing. Kids and teenagers pump up the bulk of box-office.

These are not White Chick films here Pen Cap

 

[J.R. Hudson]

What's with the big font? Screaming for attention?

You conveniently left a few titles off that list my friend LOL.

What ?

Screamin for attention ? say what ?

Who are you talking too ?

A few titles ? I've seen your take on film. It aint pretty.

 

[-D-]

HA! Yes! Go flyerland!!

 

[ece]

Kevin Smith is definitely on this list.

I agree with you about KEVIN SMITH. I never liked any of his films. Kevin Smith films are the definition of Sappy not Spielberg.

Another Director to avoid at the box office. Now brace yourself because I know a lot of people will disagree but I am tired of his predictable editing and lame dialog films.


Quentin Tarantino!

Reservoir Dogs: Sucked Royally!
Pulp Fiction: Highly Overrated!
Kill Bill: Alright but certainly not as great as people pretend.
Jackie Brown: Blah!

Yeah, I said it!

I'm tired of Tarantino and his overrated crap films. Okay we get it, Tarantino films have funky editing. I don't know which part of Sin City he directed and I don't care. I fell asleep in that movie because the story was crapola.

He is as predictable as M. Knight. Yes, predictable crap. At least M. Knight made a couple of good films before it all went to crap. Tarantino started with crap.

Tarantino is the epitome of THE EMPEROR HAS NO CLOTHES. No one wants to say its crap, just like they pretend Woody Allen garbage is worthwhile.

End of statement! I know I'm going to get blasted because there are a lot of Tarantino fans out there. I'm just not one of them. Sorry, but the truth hurts. It's like hearing Regis Philbin sing it's torture, but what makes it so bad is that everybody pretends like it isn't horrible.

Quentin Tarantino :furious3:
( using a lot of profanity doesn't make him a good screenwriter either.)

Kevin Smith
( Just Lame! I don't even have to justify this one. It became clear with Jersey Girls that I wasn't alone in my pain.)

Woody Allen :crybaby:
( Ewwwww....Gross! I hate anything to do with him. It can be fun to laugh at him, not with him, but then again its mean to laugh at retards, so...)