Drew Ott
Wish I were banned.
Hi Drew and everyone,
Per Holmes here. I saw the comments here, First let me thank everyone for their wonderful compliments.
Drew, if it's OK, I'd love to respond to some of your points.
On the Judith Weston note, I found this curious, because I don't agree with her approach. She's a great lady, but in my view, she's far too heavy on script analysis and active verbs, and while it's hard for anybody but Stanislavsky to take credit for those techniques, I've come to believe that these "classic" techniques have limited mileage. No question, you need objectives, but once you know that, you don't get magically new behavior by keeping pushing the objective.
As for active verbs, I've come to believe that directors should dial back their use -- it's an acting technique, not a directing technique. If you have actors play "to flirt", you're not just taking too much control of the acting performance leaving no space for the actor to think, it also devolves into trying various active verbs for the sake of trying them, like trying on hats, and everybody loses sight of the character. The point is to trigger behavior, and you can't as a director expect that any particular idea will produce any particular behavior. Two actors will play two very different "to flirt"'s.
But actually, I realize that all the Objectives/Obstacles/Active Verb/Motivations/Stakes stuff is on Volume 3-4, which is exactly where you were watching when posting, so I understand it could give that impression. But in total, it's a tiny part of the course, and beyond their initial utility, these objective-centric techniques quickly run out of steam.
Regarding the comments on the acting performances, I want to defend my actors a little bit. I do think it's too much to expect consistently nailed performances for hours and hours from non-union actors -- although a several of them got network shows after shooting. This is also behind the scenes. But I also think this is a wrong way to watch the course. All that matters is whether a technique has an effect. If something changes, it works. If nothing changes, it doesn't. I feel like that should be the criteria, not that every actor turns into Meryl Streep.
I also think it's important to be careful with bringing a judgy attitude to your actors. Even if you judge them from a distance, it's a disqualifier in my book to be quick to divide acting performances into good and bad -- leave that to critics. You need to be positive with your actors, even if they aren't always amazing. There's simply nothing to be gained from criticizing an actor's core skill once he's been hired. You should be the one in whose eyes they can't fail. You should be the safe space where they're safe to stink it up, because EVERY actor needs the wiggle room to try things that might fail. Perfection is the enemy of acting, and if you're judgy with your actors, even if it's about other actors, it has a toxic effect on their openness.
As for being too verbal, the course is certainly both verbal and mental, but it is so for a reason: The two primary skills you need as a director, above almost everything else, is the ability to come up with direction that's active and specific. You can ALWAYS go back to being non-verbal and experiential, but you can't turn up the volume on something that isn't there. If you're non-verbal because you don't have the skill in the first place, then this is a cop-out, and it won't work.
It's a huge grievance of actors that directors can't express what they want. It results in take after ambivalent take that drives the actors' self-confidence into the ground while you slowly find out what you want to say. Being specific and active is a hard skill that you can't fake, and this is where every director has to man up. This is why I make the point over and over in the course that you'd never dump all of these techniques on the actors. You simply have to be ABLE to. And the bigger stars you work with, the less they'll tolerate you slowly figuring it out. You have to nail, in 10 words or less, something that delivers the character. You need to learn that kind of precision, and that means that we have to do all the techniques. But in real use, you'll use 3 or 4 precise ideas. The more you talk, the worse it gets. But the opposite is also true. If you say nothing because you don't know how, that's also bad. There is a certain quantity of precise direction that's best for most actors.
As for demeanour, every Director has his own. I totally understand that my nature is indeed often too joky, and while that works well for some things, I have to remind myself to be more serious in other situations. But I just don't like a serious set focused on capital "A" Art. Keep also in mind that one of your primary jobs is to take the pressure off the actors. Many very serious scenes have been shot in a light atmosphere. It's scary enough to stand naked in front of the camera. If you're on the other side of the lens ready to judge the actors, it's just not a safe place.
But anyway, I just felt like responding. I thought about whether I should just be a big boy and take criticism, but I'm genuinely proud of this course, and I wanted to at least clarify these points.
Cheers,
Per
Hi Per,
Thanks for the nice reply-- it's great to hear your thoughts on the questions I raised. First, let me say that if I could write my post again, I would choose some less severe phrasing.
Anyway, it's good to hear that volumes 3 & 4 are the main volumes specifically about objectives/obstacles/verbs/motivations/stakes, but that you have come to believe that those techniques do have limited mileage. You're right-- since I had just watched those volumes, it felt to me like the whole course would be based around those methods.
And points taken on just about everything else in your response. I'd like to reiterate that I found what I've seen of the course so far to be excellent for anyone hoping to vocalize their ideas better.
Let me elaborate on the comment I made about your "light-heartedness." I have the belief that the director's demeanor is what creates the tone of the film. For instance, I imagine that if an actor were working for Stanley Kubrick, Stanley's personality would affect the actor's performance more than any words actually said. The same is true of a Bergman, Woody Allen, or even Judd Apatow. So in my mind, what makes a truly masterful director is his or her personality, not what he or she does or says. I personally have a "words don't really matter" philosophy of directing, and since I come from a different school of directing, so to speak, that's where my criticisms are all coming from.
Anyway, I'm eager to continue learning from the new volumes as they come out. The entire catalogue from Hollywood Camera Work has been truly life-changing and I hate the idea of having possibly offended you with my poorly articulated criticism.