dilemma's regarding accessories

Cees Mutsaers

Cees Mutsaers

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I am trying to decide which brand/type assecoires I need with the HVX and I am a bit in a dilemma on various fronts. Maybe you all can give me some advice ?


Audio : Sennheiser MKH416 or Sanken CS-1

I wanted to buy the MKH416 based on the sound samples I have heard on the internet (second option was the AT 4073a, both are relative long shotguns). However Vocas advised me not the to buy the MKH416 only because it is long and it will get into your imagefield especially when equiped with a windcover. Is this really true???????

Vocas adviced the Sanken CS-1 (short shotgun) which is of the same quality (broadcast) as the MKH416 according to Vocas. In the audio part of dvxuser I only find threads of people who are selling their CS-1 !!!!!! so maybe it is not such a good mic after all. Are there any alternative which are in the same league as the MKH416 and do not come in the imagefield of the HVX as the HVX (at least if the latter is true)???



fluid head : DV6 or DV8 (HVX200 equiped with mattbox/rails, follow focus, external mic.)

- does the panning/tilting etc. work better than using the DV6 or is it just that the DV8 can handle a few more pounds?
- is the DV8 future proof when moving up to higher end cams (e.g. HPX500)?

the price difference is about 400 Euro so not a lot but I would rather invest it in something else if the DV8 does not give more value.



Bags : Portabrace DVO-2U or Petrol PCUB-2

Again I am talking about the HVX equipped with mattbox/rails, follow focus, external mic (e.g. MKH416) and room for spare batteries/P2 cards and mabe something like a P2 store or FS. Also important is to be able to get the fully equiped HVX in and out convenient (that does not mean "fast").

Any advice/experinces/comments are very welcome :)
 
1, mic i've been using 416's for about 20 years. i wouldn't even look at anything else

2, stick. i use vinten 100, fibretec with XD. and i'm about to buy a manfrotto 503 to use with hvx.
i'm not a huge fan of satchler legs (i've got a vision18 in the cupboard) i prefer vinten

3, bags. until last month i've used nothing but portabrace, but i got my first KATA bag
and i love it.

ian
 
416, isn't a great fit ontop of the hvx.
especially with the rycote softie on.
i carry the 416 in my grab bag, and actually use a SONY XDcam topmic on the hvx.

ian
 
so although you have the 416 for 20 years you never use it mounted on the cam???? But is it possible to use it (with softie) on the cam without getting it in the image field in the wide angle. Isn't there a mount adapter available to mount it more to the back of the cam?


ian hunter said:
416, isn't a great fit ontop of the hvx.
especially with the rycote softie on.
i carry the 416 in my grab bag, and actually use a SONY XDcam topmic on the hvx.

ian
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and what is a sony XDcam topmic????


ian hunter said:
416, isn't a great fit ontop of the hvx.
especially with the rycote softie on.
i carry the 416 in my grab bag, and actually use a SONY XDcam topmic on the hvx.

ian
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If it's going on top of a camera, buy a AT4073A with a softie and you are good to go. you do not benefit with going for a mic 2x the cost if it's only going to be used as a camera mic. The 416 belongs on a pole.

A ktek shockmount with adapter that sits on the hot shoe works fine and will not be in your shot.
 
ian hunter said:
2, stick. i use vinten 100, fibretec with XD. and i'm about to buy a manfrotto 503 to use with hvx.
i'm not a huge fan of satchler legs (i've got a vision18 in the cupboard) i prefer vinten
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I would go with at least a bogen/monfrotto 516 head given the weight with add ons. Have it, like (not love) it.

Just saw a short with the AT4073a mounted and the sound wasn't as bad as I had anticipated, in fact it was pretty good to my non pro theatre going ears.
 
I know but if you buy the 416 you can go either way on cam and on a boom and have good quality. The AT4073a is only 18 mm shorter than the 416 so is that enough to keep it out of the image field in wide shoots????

ddent said:
If it's going on top of a camera, buy a AT4073A with a softie and you are good to go. you do not benefit with going for a mic 2x the cost if it's only going to be used as a camera mic. The 416 belongs on a pole.

A ktek shockmount with adapter that sits on the hot shoe works fine and will not be in your shot.
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the 416 is actually too thin to sit properly in the supplied hvx top mic holder.
the xd mic (don't know model number, sticker has come off) is the standard 6 inch
top mic that come's supplied with sony broadcast betacam camera's.

i have never put a 416 on a betacam camera, and personally wouldn't have it on top of hvx
i work in News, so i always get a reporter/producer/work experience to hold the 416
 
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