deinterlaced on both computer AND television

HerzogisGod

HerzogisGod

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How do I achieve this? I filmed 24p on my panasonic hvx200. When I render on an interlaced timeline, the footage looks great on my television but choppy on a computer moniter. When I render on a progressive timeline, my footage looks terrible on a television. What do I need to do so that the footage plays clear and deinterlaced on every media? Thanks
 
HerzogisGod said:
How do I achieve this? I filmed 24p on my panasonic hvx200. When I render on an interlaced timeline, the footage looks great on my television but choppy on a computer moniter. When I render on a progressive timeline, my footage looks terrible on a television. What do I need to do so that the footage plays clear and deinterlaced on every media? Thanks
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How are you generating the TV playable media?

For 'guaranteeing' smooth playing across all TV's... probably generated hard 3:2 pulldown encoded media would be appropriate for the DVD, and playing on any old TV display. For computers, most players these days will do 24p. So you will have to have 2 forms of the media.

There are 'use pulldown' flags, but DVD players may not 'honor' them.
 
I use speededit which doesn't support 3:2 pulldown
I think between the two, television is more important so I will render on an interlaced timeline
 
My computer is six years old. Ive read that newer computers can deinterlace. I will post a progressive and interlaced version of my trailer in a moment.
 
http://vimeo.com/39624639 password: flornoy




Here's the link. Please take a look and tell me what you see on your computer. It doesnt look too bad, but on my TV it looks really crisp and clear. This was rendered interlaced on an interlaced timeline
 
I need to know if this looks clear... if the tarot cards are clear and not choppy looking... and perhaps what type of screen you are viewing on. I see a few people have watched it, feedback is very important so I know what my rendering options are. This film is set to reach a large audience in the tarot community and they are paying decent money for it, so quality is very important. Like I mentioned, this particular clip plays crystal clear on my flat screen TV and was rendered "Interlaced" on an "Interlaced" time line
 
HerzogisGod said:
I need to know if this looks clear... if the tarot cards are clear and not choppy looking... and perhaps what type of screen you are viewing on. I see a few people have watched it, feedback is very important so I know what my rendering options are. This film is set to reach a large audience in the tarot community and they are paying decent money for it, so quality is very important. Like I mentioned, this particular clip plays crystal clear on my flat screen TV and was rendered "Interlaced" on an "Interlaced" time line
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When I viewed the clip in the 'small' Vimeo window, I would occasionally see jaggies on certain 'straight' lines. In most cases, the Tarot cards looked ok. If I froze the frame, then used the 'full screen' mode, I saw jaggies on the card images, but that's because if you are going for 'standard' TV, that only has 480 lines vertical, and so, there will be 'jaggies'.

But for the small size, I had no real problem with the clip.

What I did not see was 'hair' on motion, which for me is a real obvious and objectionable artifact.
 
Thanks so much for the feedback. I feel slightly releived. I think this can be released as is without fear if objection . Im going to test it on a couple of tv screens which is how I want people to view it anyway ... not on small screens if at all possible
 
I forgot to ask the very important questions about your TV-screen: what are you feeding it into? Is it an HDTV or SD? Because if it isn't and it's getting a coax (say from a DVD player) signal, then interlaced can look better. But if it's a progressive HDTV with signal over HDMI, it should look better progressive.
 
its one of those all in one, dvd player built into the side TV's. I am going to try the dvd on various televisions and computer screens. It's hard to imagine why this issue has to be so complex and frustrating. Why should the viewing pleasure of a audience suffer becuase they're watching a film on their computer, or their television, or through a certain player?
 
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