day for night, opening door (help?)

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forbyfiev

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I'm planning a tv spot for a sports bar/restaurant. The first shot is the marquis at dusk. The second shot is interior looking towards the front doors where people are entering. I think I need to simulate night for continuity, (we're shooting in the a.m. before opening). The sidewalk has a roof over it. I can rig a 12x12 solid 6 feet outside the doors, or will I need yards of duvetyne? Should I use a light or 2 gelled under the solid to mimic urban night outside, or just let it dark to not draw attention?
I can't find too many examples of something like this for inspiration. If anyone can direct me to an example I'd appreciate it.
Thanks for any suggestions
 
Simplest way to pull it off, is to skip that shot….. Do you really need to see them come in through the door to tell the story, or would having them inside the sports bar like they just walked in through that door work just as well?
 
yes the script involves several local celebrities and a game night theme story. It would make my life easier to do a different shot, but the story starts outside and moves through the location.
 
forbyfiev said:
... but the story starts outside and moves through the location.
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Then why not take the camera outside and follow the actors through the door and into the location? Is it actually necessary to see what's outside the door? That is to say, is it necessary to see what's outside the door from inside the location?

Or if shooting from inside is a must, then shoot at an extreme angle to the door so that you can see the people walk in through the door, but you can't see what's outside. Depending on where the sun and shadows are for that, you might have to hang some black cloth outside to darken the area around the outside of the door.
 
David brings up some good ideas. But hey, if you have the time and budget, go for it. In many situations like this a producer will tell me their shot idea, and then when I tell them how long it will take to prepare, they change their mind because time is money, and they sure hate to spend it.
 
I could probably sell them on following the customers into the place from the door (where they are greeted by a celebrity. I'd still have to tent the entranceway to control the daylight, but it would certainly be easier.
 
David W. Richardson said:
Then why not take the camera outside and follow the actors through the door and into the location? Is it actually necessary to see what's outside the door? That is to say, is it necessary to see what's outside the door from inside the location?

Or if shooting from inside is a must, then shoot at an extreme angle to the door so that you can see the people walk in through the door, but you can't see what's outside. Depending on where the sun and shadows are for that, you might have to hang some black cloth outside to darken the area around the outside of the door.
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Yeah, I too would change the angle so you can see them coming through the door but can't see what's through the doorway.

Or if you are forced to show the what's through the doorway, you should still be able to minimise the audience's attention on that - after all, shouldn't the audience be looking at the people? - anything behind the people should simply be boring black/grey which the audience doesn't consciously notice. Getting in close should also help minimise any inconvenient background - e.g. I doubt you'd need to show the people from below their waists.
 
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