CTB and diffsion at the same time

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Can I place CTB and white diffusion in front of light at the same time?
Are there any reason that I should not place two gels at the same time?
 
You'll lose a lot of light. Otherwise it should work fine.

I might recommend using blue kinoflos (unfiltered; they are already diffuse) instead, but it all depends on the shot.
 
It's not always possible, but it's great to have a gel frame holder for the color correction, and clip the diffusion on the doors, that way you can pull either of them without having to mess with the other.
 
You can stack as many gels as you want... you'll just loose light.

I often stack full CTB and quarter green to give a nice moon light. Works a treat.
 
filmmaker58 said:
It's not always possible, but it's great to have a gel frame holder for the color correction, and clip the diffusion on the doors, that way you can pull either of them without having to mess with the other.
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What is is the standard size for gels/frame holder. I've been looking around and looks like maybe 12x12. Do they make a larger set of gels and holder? (the holder I am looking for is something to attach to a grip stand etc and place in front of the light)
 
They come in a variety of sizes... many are 2x4 and 4x4. It depends on if you want to put a full sheet of gel on your frame or a half sheet / what sized lights you have / what distance you want to put the frame in front of the light and still achieve your desired effect. You can get the 2x4 frames at www.filmtools.com
 
The best gel fram holder by far is the C-47, they actually attach *to* the light, so you don't need an additional stand.

I've been looking for them on the B+H site, but they don't have them listed. Perhaps we could have Rush at EVS special order them, and hopefully w/ a DVXuser discount.


Or I could stop by walmart... ;-)
 
j said:
The best gel fram holder by far is the C-47, they actually attach *to* the light, so you don't need an additional stand.
I've been looking for them on the B+H site, but they don't have them listed. Perhaps we could have Rush at EVS special order them, and hopefully w/ a DVXuser discount.
Or I could stop by walmart... ;-)
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:grin:

For a second there... All I could think was, "is he serious?"
 
j said:
The best gel fram holder by far is the C-47, they actually attach *to* the light, so you don't need an additional stand.
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You just reminded me - I've always been curious why they call them C-47s and not, say, C-51s. Well, I didn't get an answer, but I came across some interesting information. C-47s were apparently military skytrains in popular service during WW2. Hope you're stocking up on some, Rush. Another war's brewin.
 
Sean R said:
You just reminded me - I've always been curious why they call them C-47s and not, say, C-51s. Well, I didn't get an answer, but I came across some interesting information. C-47s were apparently military skytrains in popular service during WW2. Hope you're stocking up on some, Rush. Another war's brewin.
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I've always been told that was the part # for them out of one of the manufacturer's catalogs waaaayyyy back in the day. Damned if I can remember which one, though.

Not that I can vouch for that, however...

David Kuznicki
Production Manager, WGTE-TV30
 
Sean R said:
You just reminded me - I've always been curious why they call them C-47s and not, say, C-51s. Well, I didn't get an answer, but I came across some interesting information. C-47s were apparently military skytrains in popular service during WW2. Hope you're stocking up on some, Rush. Another war's brewin.
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True true, they used to haul cargo and drop paratroopers. I was honored and fortunate to see a few of them still in operation in France, dropping paratroopers near St Mere Eglise to commemorate the 60th anniversary of the D-Day landings at Normandie. That was quite a sight, Freedom, coming down from the sky in silk parachutes, and it just mesmerized me for a moment. I could only imagine the French children seeing those men coming down from the clouds to their rescue, after years of horrendous occupation. Anyhow, the C-47 clothespins, I heard from a white-haired grip that somehow the clothespin looks like the aircraft, and it was named by soldiers-come-grips back from WWII because they were still entranced with images of the aircraft flying overhead. Either that or that's the catalogue number like Dave said, who knows for sure :) Oh to have been alive then!
 
Hmm. I always heard that c-47 was shortened from CP-47 which stood for Clothes Pin. The 47 was because they came 50 in a pack, but three were always broken. BTW, I was talking about gel frames that fit inside the barndoors of a light, the same place where the scrims go. So they would be the same size as the scrims.
 
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