CS6 for long form projects?

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sharry

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How is Premiere Pro CS6 for long form projects, like short films and feature films? Is it like FCP7 or is it better? I am currently using CS5 and it sometimes gives trouble. Is cs6 worth the upgrade? Im using Resolve Lite so I don't have my eyes on Speedgrade that much. This is just about After Effects, Audition and Premiere. My line of work is narratives, documentaries and music videos. Thanking you in advance.
 
sharry said:
How is Premiere Pro CS6 for long form projects, like short films and feature films? Is it like FCP7 or is it better? I am currently using CS5 and it sometimes gives trouble. Is cs6 worth the upgrade? Im using Resolve Lite so I don't have my eyes on Speedgrade that much. This is just about After Effects, Audition and Premiere. My line of work is narratives, documentaries and music videos. Thanking you in advance.
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It would help if you listed what problems you were having with CS5. While I only did the 'evaluation' of CS6, it seemed to be 'better' in playback on my hardware, as well as a few new nifty features. One of which was the inclusion of Audition which seems to be a better stab a a DAW than previous apps like 'soundbooth'. Unfortunately my eval time ran out before I could really try Audition on 'real' material.

I should also note that I've only done 'short' format film editing. So, what things may be better for 'long' vs. short, with FCP vs Premiere Pro... I'd have to see a list of differences that make FCP 'better' than PP... if there is some 'betterness'...
 
For me it needs the following:
1. An adequate media management solution
2. Better workings with DNxHD. I want to take my assets in Davinci Resolve and when I am shooting a format that is not supported by Resolve I'll have trouble. So I work with a losseless codec and the best one on Windows is DNxHD. I hope they make prores on Windows too.
3. An excellent DAW. Audition is one big reason I want to move to CS6.
4. Stability. I dont want my projects crashing.

I guess that is about it. I want something that feature film editors work with. Its a sign of acceptance I guess. You know that you are on a right path. I did when I was working on Avid MC6. But After Effects is a main reason why I want to come back to Premiere. Avid and After Effects integeration is not that good. Sometimes I take a project from Avid to AE through AAF. In AE I see artifacts on my footage. Little problems make me move back on to Premiere. I have never worked in FCP but it has been used in a lot of films. A film I ADed recently is being cut on FCP 7.
 
Yeah Jim I've seen this... Things like these motivate me... Another example would be The Social Network... They used After Effects for compositing and conforming. In the industry pros mostly use Nuke or Eyeon Fusion or Combustion or the kind... All of them are node based. Things like these encourage. Any more examples would be good.
 
sharry said:
Any more examples would be good.
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Avatar, Finchers Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, the list goes on....

I do almost anything in Premiere - did a ton of TV/broadcast programs typically somewhere between 15 and 55 minutes.
Mostly uncompressed files, because of speed and quality. Since hard drives are cheaper than tape today, storage isn't a problem.

Just finished a one hr. documentary without any problems.
Material was a happy mix of Cineform, uncompressed, AVCHD and ProRes - all in the same timeline.
Every clip was color corrected and we also had some dynamic link to AE stuff in there.
Everything went super smooth and without hickups.

Frank
 
Let's be honest though. Avatar used Premiere to edit together animatics, not the actual film itself. I've used Premiere CS5 to perform an assembly edit of a 113 minute film shot in 4K Red Raw on a Sony VAIO laptop and didn't have any issues. Playback was great.
 
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