cs5 colour correction workflow

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Zacshome

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ok well first thing you will notice...i spell colour weird, yeah im Australian. anyway

so i use premier to edit, and i use after effects to colour correct, now this is the first time i really want to colour correct every shot, so i thought i could just import my premier pro project into after effects and have it all in individual layers and all in time how it would be in premier, (thought i had seen it done). but i cant figure it out? so that kills my work flow plan... any ideas or any help on how you guys do it? cheers!

Zac Gordon
 
i used to do this all the time, you simply copy your premier timeline and paste it into after effects, done.
 
Did you want to use dynamic link?
you can nest your sequence in a sequence then right click and click replace with affect effects composition..

or you can load your sequence into affer effects to have each shot its own timeline.
 
I think what the OP is talking about is where he has a timeline in Premiere Pro with different cuts and then tries to import into After Effects so that he can then grade those clips independently.

I know when I have tried to import an entire premiere pro timeline into after effects it lumps all the clips together as one long piece of footage and so doesnt allow you to grade each clip seprately unless you nest each and every clip and then import them...quite a slow process if you ask me.
 
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Never tried it myself as I usually dont use PPro but always on AE. Question - can you export the PPro edit as xml and then import that in AE?
 
You should be able to open individual sequences in AE and keep all your clips separate. If you've added other FX, they may not go over with it, but at the very least, you should discrete clips.
 
(My experience is only with CS4 so CS5 users will prob have a different experience)

I always see two ways to import timelines into After Effects. The first method treats the timeline as a single layer of video footage. The second method attempts to keep the layers and cuts of the original timeline. That second method however doesnt keep things like video or audio transitions and leaves out other important information (like certain PPro effects that you applied to a clip). The first method is a dynamic link of the comp to the premiere pro timeline so you see exactly what you saw in Premiere.
I would use the second method only if I was doing most of the edit after grading. I use the first method when I want a quick colour correction in AE.

I have tried to get the best of both worlds by nesting every clip in the timeline as a seperate precomp and then importing into After Effects. That way I can edit however I want without affecting transitions or effects and still grade each clip independently. The downside is that it is time intensive as there is no quick way to nest all the clips in a timeline, they have to be done one by one.
 
hey guys, well thats silly, since after effects is so good for CC, and i got finesse colour on after effects aswell... so..i need another program that works purely in premier to have any kind of decent work flow..
 
Well, not another program. A plug-in. And Colorista actually works in both PP and AE.

But that's the the reality if you wish to apply an effect to every single clip in a program. It'll be far easier if you can apply that effect in the NLE, rather than going to an outside app.
 
Color correction is not one of my strengths beyond basic white balance fixes & proc amp -type adjustments. But with Premiere having no less than 17 effects offerings in that CC category plus the 4 from Matrox that came with my MXO2 I'm wondering what Colorista has to add. A different, faster, more intuitive approach? Lots of great presets for the multitasking editor short on time? Or is it in the other direction with tons more professional tools & options and so a bit of a learning curve?
 
even if i used magnum it looks like it would no longer be accepted strait back into premier. so i have to individually colour correct every clip via after effects if i want to use colour finesse, that is an awful shame! but looks like its my only option :)
 
Zacshome said:
even if i used magnum it looks like it would no longer be accepted strait back into premier. so i have to individually colour correct every clip via after effects if i want to use colour finesse, that is an awful shame! but looks like its my only option :)
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Oh, I thought you were using After Effects to Color Correct...
 
I've seen some gorgeous footage that was colour corrected in Premiere Pro alone. It really boils down to a knowledge of colour and how to apply it properly to an image.
Im sure plugins help but it requires a knowledge.
After Efffects comes with some better colour grading options than Premiere (so im told) but I guess to really take advantage of those benefits you should really master the ones in Premiere Pro first.
And I doubt you would need the AE level of colour correcting for every clip but rather for a particular special shot that requires that finesse.
Premiere will suffice for everything else.
 
I'm wondering what Colorista has to add.
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"with just two applications of Colorista II in your timeline, you can do 90% of what you can do in a high end color system (like DaVinci, Scratch, Apple Color) without ever leaving your editing environment.

A powerful new Keyer that allows you to adjust individual colors or ranges of colors. A new HSL picker lets you change Hue, Saturation and Luminance across nine color ranges. Two Power Masks (instead of one) to qualify an area for a specific color change. We replaced White Balance with an Auto-Balance that does both black and white balancing with one click. RGB Curves for film-like contrast adjustments. A Pop slider for more visual sharpness or, conversely, smoothing out skin. Choice of GPU or CPU acceleration, and much much more."
 
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