credits - low quality?

wahrez

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I output my film back to DV and the titles and credits look terrible....I created them using Photoshop with an image at 720x576 (pixel aspect ratio set to D1/DV PAL 1.066) when I view them in premiere the image looks fine in the viewer but in the canvas it looks really pixelated as shown below:

http://www.lafamiglia.tv/problem.jpg

Does anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks
 
is it like that on final output? PPRO (just like almost every other pro NLE in the world) uses adaptive resolution to display effects and keys and render things in real time.. so if your machine cant process the full res in realtime it will use a lower res for display.. try rendering it and then see what it looks like.
 
That is how it looks when I export to tape too. Am I missing a key step in final output process?
 
i dont know but i wouldnt think so. try importing a different file format like bmp or jpg. i havent had a problem with .psds but perhaps thats the issue?
 
I'm running QT 6.5.2, out of curiosity why would QT interfere with the DV?

I use Photoshop as thats how I've always created my titles...I usually use Final Cut Pro, but edited this film on my laptop. As far as I can tell I've done it correctly though in terms of aspect ratio etc?
 
I experienced the same. with premiere pro 1.5. and it happens when rendering, but NOT in the video preview window. it drove me crazy for a while.
i think it's a premiere bug. i found it recently and i realized it's pretty consistent.

i know how to fix it though.

i noticed this doesn't happen when there's some effect applied or some further video layer. so what i do is usually to place a dumb title on a video layer which is on the top of everything, all over the timeline. the dumb title has to contain something in order to be processed and displayed. i usually put a dot ('.' character), in black, in the upper left corner of the screen. it is invisible if shooting letterbox, if shooting 4:3 is anyway supersmall and way out of the tv margins. I'm sure there's a smarter way to fix this, but i didn't bother thinking too much about it.

Also i was wondering whether this bug showed up recently or it's always been like that and i never noticed. But since premiere came out with another problem now (it doesnt want to acquire anymore claiming the videocamera is not ready, while other sw works perfectly), i will try re-install it and see if the subtitle bug is still there.

Andrea
 
i just realize you did the subtitles with PS.
i wanted to specify that the titles i created were done with premiere title editor. so im not sure it's the same prob.

anyway, if my previous suggestion doesnt fix it, try generating a 768*576 image (full pal) rather than 720*576.

Andrea

P.S.: i work with pal too.
 
..i wonder if thats why i havent experienced this.. because I always have an additional layer of letterbox bars superimposed over the top of everything so effects and such do not come out of the boxing area. it must force PPRO to render the scene vs perhaps overlooking the high quality rendering of the stills. is there a setting for still rendering quality or import options in the project settings? i cant think of one off hand. one easy way to apply an effect though would be to add any random effect and just not initialize it.. such as adding the color corrector and not touching the controls, or adding a different filter that doeosnt do anything unless you change the initial settings.
 
>..i wonder if thats why i havent experienced this.. because I always have an additional layer of letterbox bars superimposed over the top of everything

i usually have too. i basically never understood why if you shoot letterbox the video stream carries the 16:9 flag along and the footage, on TV (but also media player) get displayed squeezed on the vertical axis and i can't get premiere to get rid of that flag (even setting the project at 4:3). So i overimpose a 4:3 letterbox to fix this ignorance of mine. this would deserve a new thread for me...

>one easy way to apply an effect though would be to add any random effect and just not initialize it.. such as adding the color corrector and not touching the controls

i tried but premiere is not that stupid and in that case it leaves the clip unprocessed and doesn't fix the 'title bug'

Andrea
 
to get PPRO to use the aspect you want just right click the file. or select multiple files all at once to change in the project bin and select "interpret footage" and then you can specify what aspect ratio the files shuold be handled as.

to bad the unused filter doesnt work. as yet though im not sure i have this issue even without the letterbox bars or filter added. ill have to check. because some title areas i di without letterboxing and use the 4:3 screen and they have been fine. ill have to test it out next time.
 
>to get PPRO to use the aspect you want just right click the file. or select multiple files all at >once to change in the project bin and select "interpret footage" and then you can specify what aspect ratio the files shuold be handled as.

wow, thanks. i always hated to have put that letterbox bmp (which by the way takes a longer rendering time)

>to bad the unused filter doesnt work. as yet though im not sure i have this issue even
>without the letterbox bars or filter added. ill have to check. because some title areas i di
>without letterboxing and use the 4:3 screen and they have been fine. ill have to test it out
>next time.

check it yourself. i didnt waste too much time with that once i found a fix.
i couldnt really say if it happens all the time or under which circumstances it does it, but i discovered this editing a short and got the same prob with the short i just finished (but i knew how to fix it then). also i have reasons to think my premiere installation is ****ed up in some way and i have to reinstall it.

Andrea
 
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