Copyrighted DVDs

drummerboy678

drummerboy678

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Hey guys,
This post may be deleted for copyright issues, which is understandable. I want to start off by saying that I am in no way trying to break copyright laws or make profit.

I'm 17, a senior in high school, and am doing my huge senior exit project on "special effects." Obviously, with my huge interest in film, I am going to make a video for my final video.

I'm going to start off with a montage of clips from movies with special effects, then break down 4 diff. special effects, and recreate them myself.

I was all ready to do this, but after recording 10 seconds off the "Adaptation" and "Matrix" DVD's, I ran into a problem. Recording from the "Nightmare Before Christmas" DVD, the DVX screen said "Copyright Prohibited" blinking, and it recorded nothing but static.
I'm assuming this is something encoded on the DVD, but is there any way to get around this?

I'm recording right from DVD player to camera, and I'd rather not have to film my TV, because I dont want to lose quality.

Before I tried any other movies, I figured I'd ask here and see if anyone had any suggestions.

I'm aware of the possibilities with copying DVD's onto Mini-DV tapes, but I asked the school and they said they were fine with me playing copyrighted material (it will be properly credited).

Any suggestions on how to get around this?

Thanks in advance,
Taylor
 
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I don't see an ethical problem ripping a couple scenes for a class project. technically it's illegal but please - You're not selling them or making money off them.

If your video card has video in you can try hooking up the DVD player to your computer and capturing the clips.
 
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"technically it's illegal but..."..........

Good advice on a site supporting DVX users for the creating of their own film.
 
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Pookie -
I tried to make it clear my intentions for this project. Yes, I'm aware the possiblity for illegal activity is there when doing this, but for my situation, I think its understandable. I own all the DVD's, and I'm only copying about 5-10 seconds of each.

If anyone on this site didn't realize that their $3500 camera did not have "video in", then they shouldn't be here. I didn't explain any new methods of piracy.

Anyways, thanks Dakotapod... I have the ATI Radeon 9700, which unfortunetly only has S-Video in... My DVD player does not.

I'm still going to experiment with filming the TV while changing the framerate, or possibly using a friends computer.

Any other suggestions?
 
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C'mon pookie you're being silly. :P You know full well I'm not telling him to go and make copies of DVDs! It's a hand full of clips for a high school project. Do you really think Kaufman will freak out when he finds out drummerboy used his footage for a class presentation. ::)
 
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Well, I have done the same thing for a school project... Just that the camera I had at the time (Canon ZR40) allowed me to get about 7-8 seconds of record time before the "copyright protect" thing came on.

Doesn't fair use cover short clips for editorial purposes? Of course the DVD's have encryption, and breaking that is a violation of the DMCA. So, I guess you are breaking the law on that end (but I don't think they'd go after you considering it is for school).
 
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Well, technically it IS illegal. But I'm saying no one will seriously care and it's not a big deal. People here post clips with copyrighted music all the time... Illegal? Yes. Anyone care? No. Any harm done if it's none profit? No. I never got Johnny Depps permission for my avatar but next time we are out drinking I will make sure he's cool with it.  ;)

Edit: pookie, where did your post go? Now I'm just talking to myself ;D
 
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Look around on the internet and you'll find plenty of folks selling the hardware you're looking for.
 
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[quote author=pookie link=board=Offtopic;num=1101081036;start=0#9 date=11/21/04 at 21:19:16]No point.[/quote]

Fair nuff'  ;D
 
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The project is educational in nature and since you're not trying to rip and sell anything, you should be fine. While I was in college my television station was able to broadcast Hollywood movies because our station was educational and not commercial. It was a good loophole and allowed us to avoid copyright issues.
 
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OMG!!!! What hell is the big deal? And yes it is illegal! But our drummerboy said he is using for a dam class project. The boy ani't trying to sell the phucken thing! He just wants a good grade. Pookie your telling me you've never downloaded a Mp3? All I'm saying is that there are more other important things in life to worry about then some highschool kid trying to do his assignment. Sorry everyone, just pissed cause I accidently deleted 46gigs of a short film. Peace
 
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Here in the UK film schools, you can use practically ANY copyrighted material (audio/visual/literature/anything) for you projects because the results (should) never leave the confines of the Uni. We did it all the time!

Do a search in google for a free piece of software called DVDx. It'll rip any piece of audio/video from ANY DVD and turn it into an avi file using ANY codec (so use your DV codec and you won't loose quailty)

So, before the moralist police come down on me: drummerboy, DO NOT use this software to pirate DVDs! ONLY use it for your school projects (which you were going to do anyway - but at least this disclaimer will keep the moaners off your back and mine!)

Good luck, I hope your project goes well. :)
 
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Terry_Lasater....what's your problem?





btw, take your own "advice":

"pookie the antagonist strikes again...

*Perhaps* a class in punctuation?"

LOL
 
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Terry, I don't understand your intervention.  Pookie merely pointed out that illegal is illegal, which is a) correct, but b) also a good idea.  I mean, if you look at the first line of the thread, the guy who started it said "This pot may get deleted for copyright issues."

I don't see in this thread where he antagonized anyone.  But now it looks like a fight may erupt.

Let's play nice and not start fights, okay?
 
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Really didnt want this to be a post about copyright issues or morality, simply wanted to learn if the message I was getting on the DVX screen was from a DVD encryption or the camera.

Anyways, I will probably try this DVDx or one of those softwares, I was just hoping to export each of the 5-10 second clips onto one mini-DV tape, and then import them all... Would make it a lot easier.
 
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DVD's are encoded with copy protection, and DV cameras are designed to detect that copy protection and to thus not allow copying.

DVD's can also not be played through a VCR, the copy protection causes severe color shifting.
 
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If it is illegal for drummerboy to take a few seconds from different copywritten films to show in his class, then I would put it to all of you that making a VHS or DVD copy of anything that comes on TV that you then share with anyone else is also illegal. Which means my wife will have to stop recording her favorite soap and loaning the tape to her friends who forgot to tape it themselves or the other way around if she forgot to tape it... but I'm NOT going to be the one to tell her that!!!

I just don't see any harm in drummerboy doing this for his class project - unless he starts selling it on ebay for $19.95.
 
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