Consumers - It's time for us to fight back...

Sirius_Doggy

Sirius_Doggy

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I think as responsible, knowledgable consumers we should let people know a scam when we see one....and this is blatently a scam.
In the April issue of VideoMaker magazine:
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On page 55:

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Digital Liquidators is selling the DVX100A for $1,549.00!

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I think we should all write to the Editor - Matthew York and Advertising Director - Stan Hicks at Videomaker magazine and let them know they are unknowingly supporting these thiefs..

Write to:
[font=verdana, arial, geneva, sans-serif][font=verdana, arial, geneva, sans-serif]Videomaker Magazine
P.O. Box 4591
Chico, CA 95927
tel: 530-891-8410
fax: 530-891-8443
toll free: 800-284-3226[/font][/font]

I'm NOT saying it's Videomakers fault. Just let em know they have a bad seed among the rest of thier otherwise good advertisers like B&H, etc..
 
The problems for the mags is that a few of these guys are the ones buying full page ads. I put Broadway in same group. But some emails can't hurt, cause I like their mag.
 
I know what you mean - but full page or not, they need to go.

I wish I could remember back when I was looking to purchase my DVX, before I found this forum, I called around looking for the "deal". I found it somewhere for like $2,400 and when I called the guy said " yeh it's 2,400 for the body but the lens is an extra $400, battery $100, charger $200.." I stopped him at that point and asked how the lens could be sold seperately on a camera that doen't have a removable lens? I was immediately met with a dial-tone.
I ended up buying from B&H and getting the camera-with lens..:huh:
 
i wrote to MacAddict last week to complain about Broadway Photo. Got a response from the Exec Editor in less than 24 hrs. He was very frustrated as well and said the contract with Broadway was not being renewed when it ran out in a few months. He said letters to the publisher matter. I wrote back saying, "wouldn't 1 more month be too much to epose their readership to these scumbags" (I was a little more diplomatic). He agreed, but said it was beyond his power.

I'd be up for contributing to an effort to call publishers to account for accepting false ads in their mags that could potentially hurt their readers. Perhaps setting up a system to register complaints against false ads, to verify the that a scam had occurred, and provide template "letters to the editor/publisher" that interested DVX users can submit.

This is just an initial suggestion and I am open to other ideas and measures to try and curtail this problem.

I am very appreciative of this board and would like to make a positive contribution. I would be be more than willing to put in some effort and time on this project if people feel like it is a good idea and would help me take the steps to set up an efficient system. I think that the "authorized dealers" thread is a tremendous resource and would like to take it one step further if I receive some encouragement for this idea (and assistance if anyone else would like to put in some time).

Anyone else want to throw out a few suggestions?
 
There's a reason to put Broadway Photo and Digital Liquidators in the same group . . .

They're the same outfit.
 
i think you give Videomaker a little too much credit. bet they get a lot of complaints form customers who saw an ad in their mag and got ripped off. MacAddict seemed VERY aware of the problem. Following is the text of his response to my complaint e-mail:
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I've been forwarding such emails as yours to our publisher, and he tells me
that (finally) we'll be dropping Broadway Photo when their contract runs our
in a couple of months.

As you know, we editorial types have no control over ad sales -- but it does
appear that concerned readers such as yourself do.

Thanks.
xxx xxxx
MacAddict
__________________
 
i think a marketplace sticky with a list of problematic vendors and a separate list of
magazines that continue accepting adverts from them would be a good start.

proposed sticky could resemble this:

vendor name
re-occuring problems i.e. - illegitimate prices, poor service
--
publication name
contact email address
prepared "letter-to-the-editor" doc

i think people would gladly sign off on a letter and email it to the publisher, if
the process were simple and someone had already written the exposition....
 
Getting the publishers to expose these jerks won't be as easy because, well ... they're the ones who are paying to help keep the magazine running. :/

I think a sticky post will be helpful. Whatever happened to the great "LOWEST PRICE EVER ON DVX CLICK HERE" sticky post in the marketplace forum?

We can also point folks to places like resellerratings.com to show them how other customers feel about the vendors they're considering. The Digital Liquidators review says it all.
 
I updated that thread and changed the title, but it's a sticky again.

http://www.dvxuser.com/V3/showthread.php?t=10707

Definitely write those mags and bitterly complain. It's frustrating because some mags pretend they care, but do nothing year after year. Let 'em know you won't be reading their rag and you'll be spreading the word.

Pais said:
... Whatever happened to the great "LOWEST PRICE EVER ON DVX CLICK HERE" sticky post in the marketplace forum?...
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Has anyone tried the legal authorities? What does the Attorney General of New York say about these fleech joints? I like the ideas put forth in this thread. Combine these with consultation with the legal authorities of the State of New York and something may happen.

Imagine if 10 or 20 or 100 independent video artist threaten to produce documentaries about the in in-action of the legal authorities of New York to stop such blatant abuse of the consumer. "Ummmmm, that gives me an idea for a film".
 
BArry, I bet it would be more effective if we wroite the legitimate advertisers and pointed out how their image is tarnished by being in the same magaznies with the scammers.
 
Rosestar said:
Imagine if 10 or 20 or 100 independent video artist threaten to produce documentaries about the in in-action of the legal authorities of New York to stop such blatant abuse of the consumer. "Ummmmm, that gives me an idea for a film".
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But the problem is that the people who got scammed don't have cameras to shoot films with...
 
galt said:
BArry, I bet it would be more effective if we wroite the legitimate advertisers and pointed out how their image is tarnished by being in the same magaznies with the scammers.
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That's an interesting strategy. While I doubt they would pull their ads, they could add to the pressure.
 
Videomaker aint going to do Sh*t! They already had tons of complaints about this issue and said they'll do something about it but they don't why? Money baby! Lots of it!
 
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