Concert Recording

[robeditor2003]

Ok Guys,

Need some info I will being doing a six camera shoot of a live concert using switched now i know video, but the question I have is how would I get good audio out this. Should I plug one standalone camera into the audio guy/her mixer? or do you guys have a better way of doing this?

The event is indoors I hope this helps.

Rob

 

[10s]

Re: Concert Recording

Take a feed from the board, set levels.... i don't think you want the cameras to capture the sound from their location, it would sound really jumpy, loud brass, then loud drums...it's best to take a clean feed from the board.

Synch is the problem in post. I'd just lay down your master scene type shot with the mix feed on it and then layer shots on top of it. If your message indicates you're using a switcher, then you should have your sound mix feed on it with a knowledgable operator that knows this stuff better than I.

 

[Pierre]

Re: Concert Recording


What we usually do if possible is to insert microphone/signal splitters before the board used for the house and record every input separately on a multitrack or computer and do our own mix in post or live in the truck because the mix they do for the live audience may not be suitable for use elsewhere ( they mix considering the acoustic of the venue ).

If not we try to get as many submixes output from the main board and again do the final mix in post or in the truck.

LAst resort is to get a stereo feed from the main board and feed the audio input of the video recorder ( perfect sync all the time )

 

[Barry_S]

Re: Concert Recording

You can basically break the mixing situation down into three categories.

1) Mix for sound reinforcement--small venue
This is the toughest situation because the board mix may sound awful when recorded. The vocals will be very hot and loud instruments like drums may not even be miced at all. Pierre's suggestion of splitting the feeds before the mixer is good--if you have the resources. However, that still doesn't solve the problem of unmiced instruments. You really need to do some advance work with the sound mixer to make sure every instrument is miced and have a separate board so a recording mix can be done.

2) Mix for sound reinforcement--large venue
If the venue is large enough, the sound reinforcement mix will more closely resemble a mix for recording. Every instrument will be miced and the board output should be acceptable if not ideal.

3) Mix for recording
If a separate mix is being done for recording, you're gold and stereo feed from thre mixer board will be excellent.

 

[10s]

Re: Concert Recording

I would think a simple well mixed stereo feed is all that is needed unless a mix in post is the target. Help me if I'm missing something.

Even then, you'll still want some sort of a feed for making sure the music & picture go hand in hand.

My favorites are those old TV shows where the music & picture are totally different...a lot of class...to bad it's all low

 

[img]

Re: Concert Recording

i would multi track as much as you can so you can remix it later on. but i would also use a stereo feed from the mixer to your camera it will help you sync your audio.
The stereo feed is for reference only to help you sync.

 

[fixitinpost]

Re: Concert Recording

If no better alternative is availaible, and you can listen to the audio you are recording in an area isolated from the house mix, you may be able to get the sound guy to mix you a separate feed off one of the sends. I have done this before, but it sounded horrible as I was in the room, and the house mix was so loud I couldn't distinguish it from what I was recording.

 

[10s]

Re: Concert Recording

Or you can always dub in disco music...and tell em that's how they sound out front.

 

[wabbit]

Re: Concert Recording

[quote author=10s link=board=audio;num=1105427959;start=0#7 date=01/13/05 at 21:57:06]Or you can always dub in disco music...and tell em that's how they sound out front. [/quote]

ROTF ;D