Color Pass

WhiteWood

WhiteWood

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I'm currently working on a commercial for Heinz Ketchup. I'm trying to do the cool effect where everything's in black and white except for the ketchup, which is red. lt SHOULD be singled out, Sin City style, like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49JQATCNWY4

The only thing is, everytime I try to do it, I find myself with only two options. both with terrible results...

OPTION ONE:
Adobe Premiere's Color Pass. I try to single out Red, but WHO KNEW that there's red in EVERYTHING in the ROOM! Including the actors skin. It's IMPOSSIBLE for me to get 25% of the Ketchup before it starts picking up on skin tones. Looking like this:
candyII.jpg



OPTION TWO:
Believe it or not, in an act of desperation, I actually expoted ALL the frames, imported them into photoshop, and MANUALLY, sucked the color out of EACH frame, then imported them BACK into Premiere, shrunk each PNG to 1 frame in length, & ordered them. But due to the fact that some things in the video tend to move fast and create interlace blurs, I had no idea where to ... OMG, It's such a stupid story! The crap ended up looking sorta like this, jumpy and choppy as hell:
candy.jpg


What should I do for a nice, sharp, fluid, intended selective color Pass in Premiere Pro (Or After Effects, which I have NO IDEA how to use, but would learn if it could pull this effect off)
 
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i would say try after effects..the color pass is more power full there..
one thing to keep in mind that sometimes the color u choose in the color picker is not the same color that u want to remove...try play around with the shades of red that u want to remove..
u can also do this color pass using masks..in a two layer system..i mean remove the color in one and lay it over the other layer..
 
The art director knew there was red in oher parts of the scene. Bad planning on his part.

I suggest After Effects and some masking. Paint / rotoscope the areas you want to work on and use multiple layers. A garbage matte could help save some time.
 
I did this: http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/piracy+psa/video/x38vxi_piracy-psa-version-2_creation

A lot of frame by frame masking in after effects. Make a mask around it with the pen tool, then click the clock icon next to mask position. Then adjust the coordinates of the mask every few frames to match what you want to mask, and once you've done that go frame by frame and fix it up where it's necessary. That should isolate the thing you want in colour. Then duplicate it, make the lower layer black and white and the masked layer in colour.
 
vrbhu said:
i would say try after effects..the color pass is more power full there..
one thing to keep in mind that sometimes the color u choose in the color picker is not the same color that u want to remove...try play around with the shades of red that u want to remove..
u can also do this color pass using masks..in a two layer system..i mean remove the color in one and lay it over the other layer..
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Interesting. Can you speak more about that or link me to a video tutorial?
 
HBlack said:
I did this: http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/piracy+psa/video/x38vxi_piracy-psa-version-2_creation

A lot of frame by frame masking in after effects. Make a mask around it with the pen tool, then click the clock icon next to mask position. Then adjust the coordinates of the mask every few frames to match what you want to mask, and once you've done that go frame by frame and fix it up where it's necessary. That should isolate the thing you want in colour. Then duplicate it, make the lower layer black and white and the masked layer in colour.
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Would this happen to explain what u mean?
http://experiencefilms.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=22&Itemid=29
 
OKAY, So I learned how to Leave Color (Color Pass) in Adobe After Effects with the two layers, bottom layer gray, top layer color passed and keyframed. (YES!)
BUT... I have AE 6.0, and the Color Correction settings aren't even an option in the effects drop menu... (NO!)
Where do I go to get the Leave Color option for 6.0? Does it exist? Is there a free upgrade? Is it a plugin that someone could E-Mail me?
 
Thank You!

Thank You!

FUYAstudios said:
Not sure if it will work in AE 6.0 (this one is from 7.0)

Put in the C:/Program Files/Adobe/Adobe After Effects 6.0/Support Files/Plug-ins/Standard/Standard Effects/

http://rapidshare.com/files/90451760/Leave_Color.zip.html
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You are a Fuk!ng GOD! Thanx, ALOT, man! I LOVE THIS SITE, I ALWAYS get an answer to my question.... ALWAYS. I only dislike that it takes like 3 days. For EVERY answer officially answered on this site, they should have a Q&A section so that u don't have to go through the forum, process.
 
Different time zones man.... and that would be a massive FAQ. (be something like the manual or the "How to books..')
 
Shooter said:
Different time zones man.... and that would be a massive FAQ. (be something like the manual or the "How to books..')
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But think about it, It'd be the BEST FAQ SECTION ON THE INTERNET for Independent Filmmakers!

Anywho, NEW FUK!NG PROBLEM.... AS USUAL
So I D-loaded the Leave Color plug-in, put it in the correct folder, went into AE and tried to apply it to my footage, and THIS pops up:
error-1.jpg


What now?

(P.S., Just saw Cloverfeild. SUCKED A$$!)
 
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I would export a filmstrip and open it up in photoshop. Then duplicate the layer and desaturate the bottom one. Creat a mask on the top layer and use a featherd brush to erase away the color layer using the mask. Now you are left with two layers save each one as a seperate filmstrip and import in premiere. alter color keyframe in premiere.
 
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