CMIT 5U internal filters.

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bosindy

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I mentioned in another thread I will be using the CMIT 5U to record a live band in a club. It is really the best mic I can find to rent and it's not a pro gig so I am not getting a sound mixer. Also they don't use a mixer to record from.

There are 3 internal filters on the CMIT 5U

1) High-frequency emphasis (+ 5 dB at 10 kHz) enhances speech intelligibility, and compensates for high-frequency loss caused by windscreens;

2) A steep low-cut filter (18 dB/oct. below 80 Hz) suppresses wind and boom noise;

3) A gentle low-frequency rolloff (6 dB/oct. below 300 Hz) compensates for proximity effect.

I am guessing I use filter 2 and 3 in this circumstance?

I was going to throw the furry jammer on there as well to decrease the sensitivity and wok the levels on camera. I'll be about 12 feet away from the band and pointing it at them using a stand.

Any advice would be hgelpful. Thanks.
 
What kind of music? Acoustic or electric?

Just beware that MOST live music levels will overdrive MOST condenser mics. When I say overdrive, I don't mean just the levels on the mic, I mean that the diaphragm in the mic becomes distorted and there is no way to manage it.

When I am at Fox on the Newman soundstage and they are recording full orchestra, they typically use a lot of ribbon mics and large diaphragm studio mics. Although they use Neumanns and they are condensers, they are large diaphragm, typically mounted up high and quite far from the actual orchestra, I would estimate at least 30 feet away from the nearest instrument when I was there a few months ago. If you use a great mic like the Schoeps and try to record highly dynamic instruments at high levels, you may run into this problem.

OTOH, if it is a small jazz or classical group, playing acoustically, you may be fine. But if you are talking amplified loud instruments and a PA system, may be tough to do. Believe it or not, many of us use handheld dynamics simply because they can take the abuse and not distort even with high levels. Something to think about, depending on the style of music you are trying to record.

Best,

Dan
 
CMIT, nor any shotgun, is not a first choice for music recording. Talk to whoever is renting you the mic about a better mic for live music.

Cheers
 
yeah i know i am SOL. I talked to the three rental houses in Boston and this is the best they had available. The band is blues and they have speakers. I am gooing to try to get some distance with the mic. I'll post the footage. thanks for the responses.
 
to record live music you want to go to..

taperssection.com

..and see how they are doing it. Not with a shotgun (not even a schoeps) I will guarantee.
 
why is that , i did a few good recordings with kmrs
dont be narrow minded - shotguns could be sound exelent in non reverb spaces
 
6 resistors are same if you pay 100 or 10 usd they all cost 1 usd
:-)
crazy ,is to blow money on nothing
 
You're not understanding, if the speakers are overloading the mic capsule itself, no amount of attenuation is going to improve things.

You can't record a clear sound with a distorted mic.

The cheap solution is a dynamic HH mic. If you have money and resources, I agree with the other posters, there are much better mic solutions for you, depending on ambient noise, room shape, levels and distance from speaker to mic.

Best,

Dan
 
i would try to tap into the bands or house's sound system.

even the smallest setup usually has a basic mixer and then you can get a clean feed off of that and then you record both...

you put the clean feed on one track and then put the live noisy sound/crowd noise etc. on another track.

then you mix it in post until it sounds like what you want and what matches the video...or are you JUST doing audio?

matthew
 
We got the the bar and they had an internal recording system THAT DID NOT WORK. SO I put the Schoeps on a stand, and at least in the 7506's sounded pretty good. I had DVXusers Aram baumann come up for second camera, he had a me66 that did not sound as good and we also used a mic from the band.

I'll post some footage once I get it edited. Thankfully, although they had a amp or two, they are not that loud of a band. Thanks for the suggestions.
 
So I shot the band with this mic. I had it about 10' away on a stand pointing at them with the softie on. we also had a me 66 camera mount on a camera on sticks as well as a handhed condesor mic mounted. The Schoeps was clearly the winner. I'll post the footage, with the sound unfiltered in the HVX section in a day or so. All and all, not the best mic for the job, but I am pretty psyched about the result.
 
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