Cineroid LM400 LED

TubEfingers

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Hi,

anyone have experience with this light?
http://www.hdwarrior.co.uk/2013/04/18/the-new-cineroid-lm400-led-light/

I need to upgrade from using these:
http://www.photosel.co.uk/studio-lighting/continuous-lighting/light-kits/studio-light-kit-ls21e52
work well for talking heads but a bit flimsy and fiddly to set up,
I shoot corporate so quick set up/portability are main factors, ability to run off a battery is a big plus hence my interest in LED's

I've got no qualms about buying chinese LED kits off ebay if it's up to scratch/comparable to my current kit but it looks like a bit of a minefield reading through the other posts on here,

I can budget approx £800 per light if the qualities there, and the smaller the better which is why the cineroid looked a good choice,

as always - all advice greatly appreciated

Cheers

Luke
 
I see the specs at 2000 lux at 1 meter at the native wide 120 degree beam spread. I guess that attaching the diffusion panel will make those luxes drop down quite a bit ( at least a full stop ) , all while consuming 72 watts of power. In that case it is not more efficient than a filament bulb. How does one narrow down that beam ?? They should have made it with a narrower beam to start. Just my opinion.
 
I like Cineroid gear a lot and I like that both they and their retailers take support and service very seriously. I haven't had a bad experience with Cineroid yet.

However, the price point is a bit meh on this one. For a basic package with barn doors, diffusers, yoke, v-mount and light, you end up paying around 921 pounds including vat. That's a lot of money for mobility :S and that's without batteries and charger...

Personally I'd rather take a shot at the F&V K4000 kit with 3 lights and stands
 
The reason, I believe, that they are not as powerful ( brightness wise )as other models that draw similar power wattage, is that the leds are not encapsulated with the hemispherical dome, hence producing a superwide beam angle. Leds, when coupled with the silicon dome along with a reflector or TIR optic, will result in a much brighter albeit narrower beam. Narrower would equate to more luxes at a given distance. A led substrate, when domeless, does emit almost 180 degree spread and doing so at the expense of brightness. The silicon dome would channel that down to around 110 degrees and make it perfectly suitable for a wide range of TIR optics or reflectors which would enable the beam to be around in the area of 40 degrees or less, thus gaining on the brightness department and also having the possibility to add diffusion if needed. Of course, the big power draw would be the reason for the active cooling implementation of the fan. If a superwide beam is needed, then a diffuser or softbox is always welcome, but narrowing down a wide beam is impossible unless using barndoors that do not increase brightness. The narrower the beam angle, the brighter the light, from the same led unit. At least a native narrowish beam will give you the choice to widen it up if needed.
Again, my 2 cents worth.
 
I would vouch for the lm400. Quite expensive, but so bright for the size, and such good color! Very solid build, pro quality. All metal. I use a lot of LED lights and these are very good. . Of course, Ithink it looks much better with an Airbox Macro softbox on it, you get a soft pretty source with an eggcrate and filter sleeve option. Disclaimer- Airboxlights.com is my company, but I
am not affiliated in any way with Cineroid.

Best
Tom Guiney
 
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