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Chinese 2K RAW S35 Cinema Camera, 8000 dollars
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I want to give a sincere thank you, Dan. I'm so thrilled to have on-going input on this project. I know that you're NOT CLAIMING to be the "spokesperson" for Kinefinity (tm), but ANY insider information is great to have. Thanks for taking time. You are clearly a subject matter expert on imaging software and it is great to have your input and perspective. Thanks so much Dan!!!
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I want to give a sincere thank you, Dan. I'm so thrilled to have on-going input on this project. I know that you're NOT CLAIMING to be the "spokesperson" for Kinefinity (tm), but ANY insider information is great to have. Thanks for taking time. You are clearly a subject matter expert on imaging software and it is great to have your input and perspective. Thanks so much Dan!!!
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Dan, I really appreciate your posts and I learn a lot by reading them,
but why do you always type that "(tm)" thing.
I mean, yeah - we know that Kinefinity is a trade mark. So is Pany, Sony, Canon and what not.
But nobody always types "(tm)" when mentioning a brand.
Did I miss something, or is there a special reason, you always do that?
Frank
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Mr. Hudgins, thank you for the information that you have provided and for participating here.
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Do we really have to close this thread?
Cool it folks. Just cause its the internet, doesn't mean blowing up someones spot over a non issue is ok.
Cool it folks. Just cause its the internet, doesn't mean blowing up someones spot over a non issue is ok.
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from a marketing point of view, developping a 2k camera today is a planned failure. Either you shoot for HD video and full HD is already available in many camera, either you still output to DVD and any cheap camera will fit, or you shoot for cinema and 4K is mandatory.
Only added features could be a saver like HDR or high speed (at least 120fps) or 3D.
Since it is a chinese model, the internal market could be big enoug to allow the company to survive, but i doubt american and european maket would dump japanese brand for a chinese one.
Only added features could be a saver like HDR or high speed (at least 120fps) or 3D.
Since it is a chinese model, the internal market could be big enoug to allow the company to survive, but i doubt american and european maket would dump japanese brand for a chinese one.
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Why not? 90% of our electronic gadgets today are from China anyway. Even the most hardware is made in China.
The ability to shoot 2k RAW or Cineform at this price point would make me jump on that camera in a blink.
2 k is nice to have, even if you aim for HD, since it gives you some extra room for framing in post if you need it.
And for most theaters 2k is more than adequate IMHO 4k is way overrated.
Frank
The ability to shoot 2k RAW or Cineform at this price point would make me jump on that camera in a blink.
2 k is nice to have, even if you aim for HD, since it gives you some extra room for framing in post if you need it.
And for most theaters 2k is more than adequate IMHO 4k is way overrated.
Frank
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Sounds all pretty promising Dan.
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Hi Dan
please film faces under 5600K and 3200K with shallow DOF.
here is an example but do not slam people against the wall. please make sure there is enough depth in the BG.
http://vimeo.com/17191894
thanks for doing this.
please film faces under 5600K and 3200K with shallow DOF.
here is an example but do not slam people against the wall. please make sure there is enough depth in the BG.
http://vimeo.com/17191894
thanks for doing this.
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Color (sorry, but I´m obsessed with skin tones) is one thing I constantly wrangle with on video, but the other one is motion.
I was on a test screening where they demoed different pro theater projectors at different frame rates
O.K., no artifacts (since they had really good prepared footy), no 24000Hz Voodoo-Shmoodoo.
The footy was from 35mm, Phantom, Red, Alexa.
60p got booed out instantly.
But I have to say, that the 24p and 25p versions didn´t really look like film ether (motion wise) and you got that stuttering motion (especially on areas with hard contrast), but only on the shots, done with the video cameras - the 24p 35mm film was the only one that looks like you would expect.
That leads me to my theory that most of the motion problems (stuttering) we see on video today , is originated in the way the electronic shutter works.
So I would really like to see a mechanical shutter on a video camera - I think this (or the electronic emulation) will be the next big thing.
There is a company (cant remember the name) that uses a real fast translucent led (you can use it like a filter in the matte box) that simulates mechanical shutter - the results look quite good and it could double as an variable ND.
But it´s quite expensive.
I would love to see something like this, build into a camera. You could preserve a nice flange distance (so you can still use about any lens out there) and have a variable ND filter build in.
Frank
I was on a test screening where they demoed different pro theater projectors at different frame rates
O.K., no artifacts (since they had really good prepared footy), no 24000Hz Voodoo-Shmoodoo.
The footy was from 35mm, Phantom, Red, Alexa.
60p got booed out instantly.
But I have to say, that the 24p and 25p versions didn´t really look like film ether (motion wise) and you got that stuttering motion (especially on areas with hard contrast), but only on the shots, done with the video cameras - the 24p 35mm film was the only one that looks like you would expect.
That leads me to my theory that most of the motion problems (stuttering) we see on video today , is originated in the way the electronic shutter works.
So I would really like to see a mechanical shutter on a video camera - I think this (or the electronic emulation) will be the next big thing.
There is a company (cant remember the name) that uses a real fast translucent led (you can use it like a filter in the matte box) that simulates mechanical shutter - the results look quite good and it could double as an variable ND.
But it´s quite expensive.
I would love to see something like this, build into a camera. You could preserve a nice flange distance (so you can still use about any lens out there) and have a variable ND filter build in.
Frank