Cheaper mixers

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Diggah

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Hi all

Can anyone suggest a cheaper portable mixer than the Shure FP33?
I realise it would be a worthwhile investment but I simply can't afford it at the moment.

I had thought of going completely external with a Fostex FR2LE but Im torn between the option of having good multiple controlled inputs recorded alongside the footage and having a free separate recorder with possibly more options.

Any thoughts?
 
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Cheers. Any Good? Also at that price (which in the UK is not much less than an FP33 if I import it) is it worth it over a digital recording deck?
 
why to buy locally , you can buy over seas , if you have trouble with contact me
kaizero1@gmail.com

you can also get very good twelco tw 4 channel for the price of local mix pre
i will not go with shure as it already discontinued about 3-4 years ago , so dont expect get parts in near future
 
Diggah said:
Cheers. Any Good? Also at that price (which in the UK is not much less than an FP33 if I import it) is it worth it over a digital recording deck?
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I was faced with a similar dilemma recently - with a little extra money in the budget, what to buy first, mixer or recorder? The answer boils down to whether most of your shoots are worth the additional trouble of double system. The mixer is useful for both single system recording and also as part of the kit for double system shoots while the recorder is useful only when going double system. So for me, it shook out to the first priority being the mixer and camera breakaway cables, then the recorder will follow later as budget permits but after filling out my mic locker, boom, etc. YMMV If you do a lot of sound recording other than as part of a video shoot, that might give you different priorities.
 
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Hmm yeah. I did use a Zoom H4 when I started out but sold it pretty quickly due to the timing inconsistancies. I guess thats why Im umm-ing on the side of recorders.

Cheers for all the thoughts guys. Appreciated.
 
I used to love my mix pre until started working with Sanken Shotguns, but an external phantom power solved the motor-boarding. I remembered Oleg saying that it was a problem with Sd pre-amps and not just for MIX-pre. My old Shure that nobody likes anymore works perfect.
 
rafaeldelauz said:
I used to love my mix pre until started working with Sanken Shotguns, but an external phantom power solved the motor-boarding. I remembered Oleg saying that it was a problem with Sd pre-amps and not just for MIX-pre. My old Shure that nobody likes anymore works perfect.
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According to SD, it's caused by feeding the mics with 12 volt phantom instead of full 48 volt. The SD preamps allow you to select the lower voltage to save battery power. Switching back to full 48 solves the problem.
 
no its not , the motor boating happence with cs-1 and cub-1 with its power suply , akg blue line and my chiniz friends with 48 v ph , cutting the lo fq on the mixer solve the problem
 
rafaeldelauz said:
Oleg, I wasn't that lucky with the low-feq and the motorboarding. It didn't fix it. The external phantom power did the job. I called SD I they told me that sometimes the roll off works, sometimes it doesn't and they don't have way to predict when is going to happens.
Steve, Sound Devices doesn't say that. This is what they say.
http://www.sounddevices.com/notes/mixers/oscillation-xfmr-inputs/#more-30
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My copy of that page on SD's site goes back a little while. The original says it's most likely to occur if the 12 volt phantom option is used. When they revised their FAQs last month they must've edited it.
 
rafaeldelauz said:
Oleg, I wasn't that lucky with the low-feq and the motorboarding. It didn't fix it. The external phantom power did the job. I called SD I they told me that sometimes the roll off works, sometimes it doesn't and they don't have way to predict when is going to happens.
Steve, Sound Devices doesn't say that. This is what they say.
http://www.sounddevices.com/notes/mixers/oscillation-xfmr-inputs/#more-30
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never checked the cs-1 with mix pre so realy cant say allot , with 302 and 442 and 744 there are no problem with lo fq cut off .
 
The problem is explained on the SD website somewhere. It has to do with the Phantom power and an oscillation on the power rails that creeps in with some mics. With Oktava's simply using 48V instead of the lower phantom made the problem go away and that is supposedly the fix for most mics. Also putting in the low cut solves the problem. I haven't heard of any cases that weren't solved by doing one of the above.

rafaeldelauz said:
I used to love my mix pre until started working with Sanken Shotguns, but an external phantom power solved the motor-boarding. I remembered Oleg saying that it was a problem with Sd pre-amps and not just for MIX-pre. My old Shure that nobody likes anymore works perfect.
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