Career Dilema

Well, best of luck to you in whatever you decide. Just don't let the fear of the unknown be what talks you out of trying anything.

You just have to get out there, and get after it, in whatever capacity you decide. And start charging! :)

There will likely be some hard knocks or some big f* ups that happen. Just take them in stride, and don't let them get you down too much. It happens to everyone. Except maybe Barry. But, I'd bet he has had at least an almost catastrophe before, too. :)

Good luck to you!
Jason
 
krish said:
My current day job has nothing to do with films or video. I am a software guy and make tons of money (over 100K) doing it but just like everybody on this board becoming a filmmaker is a lifetime passion.

Thats one of the things that I believe that most folks tend to forget.

The entertaintment and production industries are wide ranging industries. Stare
at spreadsheets all day? Plenty of folks do the same thing in production offices.
IT/Software? I work with em all the time on projects. On set mechanics, tutors,
studio librarians... Food prep and Catering? Any decent set has it ;)

If you want to get into the business, its a good chance that your existing career
or job has an analog that you may be able to leverage while you make conacts.
Even the caterers have scripts :)
 
Greggl,

Well, I'm a Project Manager so I definately see how that is a skill that all filmmakers use daily. I'm just project managing in the wrong industry! =)

Jason,

Thanks for the encouragment. I've read that "What was your worse screw up" thread on this forum a while back...gave me plenty of catastrophic scenarios to watch out for, or at least know that I'm not the only one that did or will do something stupid on a film set. =)

--davy
 
I dont agree with that article. theres TONS of industries that are arts based....

The enitre Film industry, Advertising industry, photogpahy, Video, Layout, textile, fashion. Theyve got to be kidding theres so much yo ucan do to make a living with arts training. also Dont forget a MFA, is a sought after degree for many corporations. Tehy are interestd in hiring employees that can approach a problme from a different angle. Google it, you will find articles that talk about "outside" the box thining in the new corporate environment.
 
"Who's been lying to these children?"

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Reminds me of this lady: "Won't someone think of the children?"
 
I believe he's making a distiction between art and craft. If you noticed he calls his journalism a craft, not art. Seems like everyone wants to think that what they do is art nowadays. Oh well.
 
Well if aperson is just "settling" for doing a "job", and not making somehting fun and art full out of it, whats the point of living. i'd friggin kill myself if i just did a Mediocre job on something. i just shot a short that i feel is complete crap, the director does not agree with me, but it just felt mediocre, the lighting wasflat, the compositions were boring. i just hated it. Initially i was not a cinematographer for art, it was a job to me, but its somethign eventually i wanted to elevate to an art form. I found i really enjoyed it and that there was great potential to make it in to art. ( WHile getting paid to do it)

My real passion is Video art and sculpture. But ifigured, how can i make money making pretty videos, and sculptures.... Cinematography came as a by product of the work i had already done in school, and in my personal time. ITs about applying what youre goot at to a field then workign your ass off. NOTING comes easy in life.

I learned that the hardway by making poor career choices in college, and not believeing i was "good" enough to be what i wanted to be.
 
TimurCivan said:
My real passion is Video art and sculpture. But ifigured, how can i make money making pretty videos, and sculptures.... Cinematography came as a by product of the work i had already done in school, and in my personal time. ITs about applying what youre goot at to a field then workign your ass off. NOTING comes easy in life.

This is exactly what the author of the article is saying. Most artist have to do something other than their art to make a living. It doesn't mean that you can't love what you're doing or that you have to work in a something that exercises no asthetic judgment or that may even be someone else's art. Hell, if you're lucky enough you may even find your true art doing work you just took to earn a living. To quote the end of the article - "Art is composed of two elements: love and compulsion. The love of your art and the compulsion to do it. Which is why my words won't discourage any true artist. If you're the real deal, you'll do it no matter what. That Greek poet I mentioned, Seferis, said, "We do not speak of the great or minor artist, but of who keeps art alive." So, kid, take the leap, devote your life to keeping art alive. You have my word: Your wages will be trouble that's worth getting into and beauty that money can't buy. Murray Kempton said it: "The only argument against [this] road is its risks, and you affront the young – or ought to – when you advise them against risks."
 
rsbush said:
So, kid, take the leap, devote your life to keeping art alive. You have my word: Your wages will be trouble that's worth getting into and beauty that money can't buy.

That's a great line.
 
TimurCivan said:
I dont agree with that article. theres TONS of industries that are arts based....

The enitre Film industry, Advertising industry, photogpahy, Video, Layout, textile, fashion. Theyve got to be kidding theres so much yo ucan do to make a living with arts training.
Artists or Artisans? I think the article was about artists. I think most of the jobs you're talking about are for artisans. Yes it's semantics. However, the number of artisans making a living from their craft outnumbers the artists by far. I've never heard the term starving artisan.
 
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