Canopus report

I know this is a little off topic but I am actually going to pick up my new Dual 2 ghz G5 today. I am getting it new at a ridiculous low price for a MAC. I already have a mac-mini and a copy of Final Cut Pro Studio. The difference in price between buying Edius Broadcast and this Dual G5 is less than $500 bucks. I have been using a PC for years but playing around with FCP on my Mac Mini has shown great promise.

Add to this my PC is becoming outdated fast. So it seems I will be due to buy/build a new higher powered PC this year anyway.....so the MAC at this price seems like an awesome deal.

Anyone want to weigh in on this?
 
I'm trying to hang in there with Liquid--hoping they'll at least announce support for HD soon. I'm getting itchy, though, and I'm liking the Canopus reports so far. Looking forward to reading more of all'y'all's experiences with it.
 
If you're getting a dual G5, already have a mac mini and a pc for basic(or more) stuff then getting another machine this year would be too much, you already have everything you need man, spend it on storage or cam. accessories if you have the extra dough
 
icicle22 said:
I know this is a little off topic but I am actually going to pick up my new Dual 2 ghz G5 today. I am getting it new at a ridiculous low price for a MAC. I already have a mac-mini and a copy of Final Cut Pro Studio. The difference in price between buying Edius Broadcast and this Dual G5 is less than $500 bucks. I have been using a PC for years but playing around with FCP on my Mac Mini has shown great promise.

Add to this my PC is becoming outdated fast. So it seems I will be due to buy/build a new higher powered PC this year anyway.....so the MAC at this price seems like an awesome deal.

Anyone want to weigh in on this?
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I got edius Broadcast for $799 here:
http://www.sharbor.com/products/CANN0320015.html

So your saying you can get a Dual G5 with Final cut pro for $500 more = $1,299
Yeah if I could have done that, I would have gone that route as well, but I couldn't so I got Edius Broadcast, and will try and learn it untill Premiere Pro gets updated to work in real time with HD Panasonic..
 
I have Final Cut Pro SUite already through where I work. I am running it on my Mac Mini. I will move it over to the G5 at no cost. The Dual G5 is costing me $1300 out the door...new as a clearance at a local shop.

The other issue is my editing PC is becoming seriously dated. 3ghz P4 with 2gb ram. It is an old mother board and no PCI-x for expansion. So there is no upgrade path. I feel a new PC would be in order sometime this year anyway.
 
Hold the fort. This dual G5 is an old model....well kinda. It is old stock and has 2 actual processors as opposed to the dual core of the current 2 ghz G5. Now what is interesting is it has only PCI slots and only 4 memory slots. However earlier models of this computer used PCI Xpress slots and had 8 memory slots. WTF?

In april of last year apple re-released this exact model and stripped the PCI-X and RAM features. So if it were the old model it would have a faster newer bus. The newer model has hte older slower bus and less features....yet that sell as being the same.

Hmmm....

With no PCI-X options I am not feeling the love........

NO MAC FOR YOU!!!

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SalaTar said:
Jarred ,
The Canopus demo rocks on PC!!!!!
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oh yeah baby.. full real time playback and all. I still dont know what the hell im doing in there and cant seem to link the audio automatically but man its a powerful program.
 
I've been looking at the new demo, and beginning to reconsider my position... for starters, it does appear to install on Windows 2000, and while I haven't had a chance to really test it, that's a good start.

I did some reading throught the Edius Pro 3 user manual PDF, and there is no reference to Product Activation. There is also no reference in the Edius Broadcast manual (only a reference to the hardware dongle). The only place I can find any info on activation is from the Edius help files, and they only mention it in reference to the Procoder Express software. Is this the only part of Edius that needs activation? If not, could those of you who own the full product go into some detail about it? For example, after the 30 days for activation are up, will the entire Edius product stop working until you activate, or only certain features? With Vegas 6, I can live with activation because only Mpeg2 encoding and AC3 creation are disabled if you fail to activate. As I can do both functions with other programs, this isn't a big deal. So if I am ever denyed activation (because I've activated too many times, or because I need to re-activate over the phone in the middle of the night when no on is there, or because the company stops supporting the product, etc), I can still use most of the progam's features. If this is the case with Edius, I would certainly consider purchasing it.

Having read most of the posts on the Canopus forums regarding activation, there seems to be several users upset about it. Apparently there are several reports of the program kicking out your activation codes, even after you activate it, causing you to have to re-activate, and waste a precious activation (from what I've read, you can only activate 3 times before Canopus tells you "too bad for you"). Sadly, no one there seems to want to go into any detail about the actual activation process, and what is or isn't disabled if you fail to activate.

Also, for those of you who use Vegas with Raylight, could you by chance offer a brief review of tje editing preformace difference with Edius?
 
The demo is the fabled release 3.61 Japanese ver. right before the merger/tackover/buyout with Thompson...

In other words Canopus was goung to offer the codec pack free as an upgrade but Thompson made it Broadcast and pay to play
 
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Barry,

Glad to hear your laptop is playing back at full frame rate. I can only say that if you like Edius on a laptop you'll love it on a quicker machine. My station has over 75 licenses of this program, most of them are cutting DV for news from Sony Z1s. My department is doing the HD stuff with the Z1s and now the HVX. Aside from the RT playback, one of the things I like about Edius, and Canopus in general, is how stable it is. Very few crashes, if any, while cutting HD. My Liquid Edition in SD took me months to iron out all the problems. With Edius you can concentrate on editing.

I met the President of Canopus (very nice man) and when I asked about the HVX and P2 he just smiled. I mean a big smile. He knew something last year that we are only beginning to understand now about this program.

As I said earlier, Edius is not without faults, but speed is not one of them. It's an absolute joy to make changes quickly in HD and not have to wait for a long render or stare at a choppy playback.


Happy cutting,

Jim
KRON-TV, San Francisco

ps. If the group is interested I can invite some Edius trainers to join this forum. I'm not sure how much HVX stuff they know, but they can answer interface and operational questions.
 
yeah Jim.. my workstation is at the higher end of things and it just blazes through P2.. no recompress, just load the clip and its ready to play.

Incredible.
 
Hey Jim I second that. This system is one that runs sooooooo smoooooove. I had a problem with mine at first but found out is was the power supply. I use a Dual Xeon 3.4
Jim I talked to James in support an ask him to come on the list an help. He said there was only 3 of them in support and they could barely keep up.
Sure would be nice to have Mike Downey on board .

Mule
 
Mule,
Mike is the man who trained about 80 of us at KRON. Good guy. I'll make contact. Also I know the VP of Marketing for Canopus in San Jose. He should be made aware of dvxuser. He could provide "Jan-like" knowledge on the editting side.

jim
 
If you are working with P2 led material in EdiusBroacast - do you get a downrezzed output of DV to the firewire in real-time?

What sort of chips/boards/memory are giving the best results?

thanks. ROne.
 
well, if the comapny is listening I'd say implement Vegas style Audio featrures and I'd come on board.

even FCP struggles with this..


this app does look really useful though

would be fun to try...does it do the live HVX capture like FCP? (i dont have a P2 card!!)
 
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