Canon 4K C200 and C400 at NAB?

Rumors are that Canon won't announce anything this NAB. C300 was announced in November anyway. They'll probably only announce it when it's ready.
 
Yea I feel like anything this soon would just cannibalize the HD handicapped C100/300 series...not likely gonna happen.
 
This. Nothing in the article makes sense - a C200 would make the C300 worthless, and a C400 with internal 4K would make the C500 worthless.
 
Canon aren't known for making camera announcements at NAB.

Im wondering how these crippled cameras are still one of the hottest rental cameras around. (please sense the relevant sarcasm)
 
If Canon doesn't come out with something new, I would say their taking a huge risk with losing market shares, Their going to have to step it up quick or Panasonic will more than likely steal the show. Only speculation of course. I just find it odd they don't have 1080 60p In all their cams. Which is why I didn't buy the c100, that should be a gimme.
 
maranfilms said:
If Canon doesn't come out with something new, I would say they're taking a huge risk with losing market shares, they're going to have to step it up quick or Panasonic will more than likely steal the show.
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A lot of TV is being shot on the Alexa and C300. A lot of major movies on the Alexa too. Wedding shooters are absolutely loving the C100. Not being a 4k camera hasn't hurt them so far and I don't think it will for a little while still.

maranfilms said:
I just find it odd they don't have 1080 60p In all their cams. Which is why I didn't buy the c100, that should be a gimme.
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The 60i trick works really well on the C100 so it's not an issue for most of us. It would be nice to have 60p, but we're getting by without it.

Oh yeah…there ain't gonna be any new C cams at NAB. At most some concept camera or development announcement. Maybe. At most.
 
wgtwo said:
This. Nothing in the article makes sense - a C200 would make the C300 worthless, and a C400 with internal 4K would make the C500 worthless.
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I feel like a C500 replacement would make a ton of sense if it had internal 4K and a slightly different form factor. The C500 hasn't been a success on the scale of the C300, and they've reduced its price quite a bit too. Of all the cameras to replace, that's the one that makes the most sense. The 1D-C and C500 are probably first up for replacement, since Sony is going to release their own 4K DSLR soon.

Canon don't have a real large sensor flagship, though it's easy to doubt they ever will enter the upper market because they don't have the technology to hang in there. Their cameras are still limited in DR and performance to quite an extent, and their only selling point is the convenience of their workflow. Sony has shown they understand this, by being willing to implement a ProRes upgrade. I'd love to see a C500 mk2 with F5 like performance though, but Sony's technology seems to be a couple years ahead.
 
I think the only limit to what Canon can do is Canon themselves...that sensor in the C series is very good, mainly limited by how it's recorded..and even then it's a fantastic image.
 
IanTheM said:
...I'd love to see a C500 mk2 with F5 like performance though, but Sony's technology seems to be a couple years ahead.
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At the original price point of the C500, it vs. an F55 would have been a no brainer. 55 all the way.

If I had to transition today, I'd buy a 55 over a 5 without much thought.
 
pulpfiction007 said:
I think the only limit to what Canon can do is Canon themselves...that sensor in the C series is very good, mainly limited by how it's recorded..and even then it's a fantastic image.
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None of Canon's stills cameras exceed 11 stops of DR, compared to the Sony/Toshiba sensors that Nikon have been using to get 13-14. It's a tradeoff they choose to have better low light capability, apparently, but it doesn't change the fact that there's quite a discrepancy in the way an F55 and C500 can handle highlights. The C series sensors are definitely just their stills tech modified (though the phase detect is great) but not quite comparable to the really advanced cinema sensors made by TowerJazz/Dalsa/Sony. Those sensors are no doubt extrememly expensive though, and Canon might simply not have the infrastructure. It's important to remember the impact of the tsunami is still quite present for them.

Run&Gun said:
At the original price point of the C500, it vs. an F55 would have been a no brainer. 55 all the way.

If I had to transition today, I'd buy a 55 over a 5 without much thought.
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Yeah the 55 is the best bang for buck camera out there, and it seems like Sony's supporting it really well.
 
John Foundas said:
I don't care what they do, just put 120fps in 100, 200, 300 or 400! I don't care about 4k.
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This!
I would rather pay a $ 4000 hardware-upgrade (120fps, 10-bit internal) to the C300 than buy a C400 for 15k, just because it has 4K.

I know Japanese companies don´t work with hardware upgrades, but it would make sense for us customers to evolve a working system instead of constantly developing new bodies, switches, layouts etc., which forces us to buy new accessories, cards, raincovers....
 
IanTheM said:
None of Canon's stills cameras exceed 11 stops of DR, compared to the Sony/Toshiba sensors that Nikon have been using to get 13-14.
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Is that an actual measured difference or are people just taking DXOMark stuff and applying it to cinema cams? There are different ways to measure DR (and DR is different depending on the ISO value too, Canon is great with higher ISOs). I shot with the 1DC and the lowlight was unbelievable and still had good DR. Way, way, way better than the C300 / FS700
 
It's a dxomark number that only applies to stills, and does not refer to the C line, which has not been tested by dxo AFAIK.

I may be wrong (it's not my measurement), but I believe the C100 has about a stop better DR than the 5D3+RAW (about the same headroom in the shadows, a bit better in the highlights), which would put it close to BMC territory (but not quite there).
 
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