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Saw the JVC HM850, but not in a way as to draw any quality judgements from. Obvious point is that JVC have (I'm very pleased to say) gone back to their lightweight shouldermount ergonomics. As such, the selling point is that it's a fairly lightweight camera (lightweight enough to, say, be held above the head in a crowd) but still have good ergonomics in normal use. To me, that's a strong plus over the other cameras in the class - PMW200, HPX-270, XF305.Did any of our European members attend BVE? If so, please let us know what you saw. I'd like to hear some first hand impressions on the Panasonic PX-270 and the GH4, and the JVC HM850.