Buying a CUDA card for my CS5 system! Need your help!

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vimcrony

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Hello, I'm looking to purchase the GeForce GTX 285 for my HP Pavilion p6313w. Here are my questions:

1. Would the card even work/fit? It says that my computer has a PCI- Express slot, but the card's box says PCI-Express 2.0???

2. Is there a better cuda/Premiere CS5 supported card that I should purchase? My budget is around 200 dollars.

3. ALSO, there is already an integrated gfx card in my computer (NVidia GeForce 9100). Is there a major difference between the integrated card and the card I want to buy? Will I be removing this integrated card and putting in my new card or do I just leave it in there???

Here are some details on my system and the card I've been looking to buy:

My computer:

Model number p6313w
Product Name HP Pavilion p6313w Desktop PC
Processor AMD Athlonll X2 215 2.7 GHz
Socket Type Socket AM3
Chipset nVIDIA GeForce 9100
Power supply 250 Watts
Memory Installed 5 GB
RAM Speed supported PC3-10600 MBps
RAM Type 240 pin, DDR3
Hard drive 640 GB SATA 3G
Hard drive speed 7200 RPM
DVD Interface SATA
DVD Data buffer memory 2 MB
DVD LightScribe Yes
Modem PCIe internal modem
Sound/Audio High Definition 8-channel audio - ALC 888S chipset
Audio codec ADI AD1984A
Network (LAN) Integrated 10/100 Base-T networking interface
Memory card reader Supports: Compact Flash I, Compact Flash II, IBM Microdrive, Secure Digital (SD), mini-SD, MultiMediaCard (MMC), Reduced size MultiMediaCard (RS-MMC), MultiMediaCard Plus (MMC plus), MultiMediaCard Mobile (MMC mobile), Memory Stick, Memory Stick Pro, Memory Stick Duo, Memory Stick Pro Duo, SmartMedia, xD Picture Card (xD = extreme digital
Input/Output ports Front panel: 1 x 15-in-1 (4 slot), 2 x USB, 1 x Headphone, 1 x Microphone; Back panel: 1 x S/PDIF out (coaxial), 1 x VGA, 1 x DVI, 4 x USB, 1 x 1394a, 1 x LAN, 1 x Audio (side speaker out, rear speaker out, center/subwoofer-out, line-in, line-out, microphone
Expansion slots 1 x PCI, 1 x PCI Express x16, 2 x PCI Express x1, 1 x PCI Express x1 minicard socket
Keyboard HP USB keyboard
Mouse HP USB optical mouse
Operating System Provided Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit
Dimensions 7.0 x 15.5 x 16.6 inches

My possible card purchase:

# GeForce GTX 285 with 648 MHz clock
# PCI Express 2.0
# 1024 MB 512-bit .7ns DDR3 memory
# 2484 MHz memory clock and 1476 MHz shader clock
# Open GL 3.0, Windows XP and Windows Vista suppor
 
1) A PCI-Express card will work in a PCI-Express 2.0 slot (and vice versa). It won't be as fast as it would in a 2.0 slot, but it will work. My current card is 2.0, and it's in a 1.0 slot and works just fine.

2) There isn't a better card out there in that price range that will be officially supported. There is, however, a very simple hack that will make any CUDA card with more than 786MB (or something like that) of RAM on it work with Premiere.

3) If the other card is integrated into the motherboard, you can't remove it. You just won't use it. As to the difference, the GTX285 should be a better card... especially if the integrated card doesn't have it's own memory and instead relies on the computer's main memory.
 
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I was thinking about ebay. Thanks for the responses! So would I even notice an increase in performance in premiere???
 
I have a hacked GTS250 with a gig of RAM on a Win 7 machine with a Q6600 2.4Ghz quad-core. There is a noticeable difference between when I turn CUDA/Mercury acceleration on and off.
 
Right now the best bang for the buck is probably a GTX460. They can be had for just over $200. A small edit to a text file will allow the card to work with CS5.

Take note that VRAM is important to hardware acceleration, so you'll want as much GDDR5 memory on the card as you can afford.
 
i have a galaxy razor gtx 460 1GB (the single slot card) on our on-set machine; works great in Premiere with MPE enabled and left my PCIe x1 slot open for a Blackmagic Intensity Pro.

you will find that AMD processors lack the speed of Intels in CS5 because of no SSE x.xx support; you may be better off going with either a different editing suite or perhaps building a new machine.
 
Jim Simon said:
Right now the best bang for the buck is probably a GTX460. They can be had for just over $200. A small edit to a text file will allow the card to work with CS5.
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Looks to me like the performance bump of the 560 might be worth an extra $50.
 
You can pretty much forget about any of the higher end Geforce cards if you only have a 250 watt power supply.

Looking at the specs of your machine, I doubt you'll see value in upgrading your GPU. I'd consider replacing the machine instead.

Are you even sure there's enough physical space in that case for a GTX card? From the pictures:

1. It's a MicroATX board -- is there physical space for a card inside the case?
2. A 250w power supply is laughable. It will lack the power connectors for a Geforce card. Even if you manage to MacGyver it, the card will probably blow up your PC.


The Pavilions are consumer grade PC's and are not meant to be upgraded (other than maybe some RAM). I would seriously re-consider buying a graphics card and focus on saving for a newer machine.
 
I have a ATI RADEON HD 3850 Series and with a phemon II quad and 8gigs 1600mhz DDR3 memory it runs like a charm. No need for cudas or anything similar. I wonder if all this cuda business is just a money
grabber from Nvidia&Adobe. I cant see how a better graphic card would help!
 
Ogrus said:
I have a ATI RADEON HD 3850 Series and with a phemon II quad and 8gigs 1600mhz DDR3 memory it runs like a charm. No need for cudas or anything similar. I wonder if all this cuda business is just a money
grabber from Nvidia&Adobe. I cant see how a better graphic card would help!
Click to expand...

define "runs like a charm"?
 
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