brokeback mt. ?
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SilverWolf
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there is a thread on this movie out there
Shaun Patrick
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SilverWolf said:
Unfortunately, that thread was closed. I'm hoping that we can have a constructive conversation about this film. People just need to grow up.
How can anyone remotely interested in film pass this one up?--Directed by Ang Lee, Shot by Rodrigo Pierto, Written by Larry McMurtry....I just don't understand.
Jeremy Ordan
Major Contributor
As long as people just state their opinion regarding the film, keep the conversation mature, and do not dive into personal attacks then in my opinion there is no problem discussing this film.
Personally, as I have said in the past, I loved this film. I thought that it was one of the most natural and organic things I have ever seen. Furthermore, I think it was THE best love story I have ever seen unfold on the screen. There was something about how the silence spoke louder than the words that just conveyed this entire sense of emotion and power. By far the best film of 2004 in my opinion.
Personally, as I have said in the past, I loved this film. I thought that it was one of the most natural and organic things I have ever seen. Furthermore, I think it was THE best love story I have ever seen unfold on the screen. There was something about how the silence spoke louder than the words that just conveyed this entire sense of emotion and power. By far the best film of 2004 in my opinion.
The Machinist
Respected Member
Sounds like your describing New World for a second there Yankee. I still haven't gone to see this yet but will certainly try this weekend.
By the way the reasons you give for Brokeback are some of the reasons i love New World.
By the way the reasons you give for Brokeback are some of the reasons i love New World.
I definitely need to catch New World. Everyone I've talked to has raved about it.
I think the cast is interesting but the movie appears not to be. The love story seem to be the kind of film where you get the point just by watching the trailer.
I wonder if there is anything more to it.... Is the moral and the story as apparant as it seems?
Man loves man, wives get hurt, man who love man cant get man due to society's views, man and man split up and get hurt... story ends.. no hope ... blah blah..
Personally I feel there are much more interesting and movies out there...
Think I will skip this till I can see it on Tv..
LLD
I wonder if there is anything more to it.... Is the moral and the story as apparant as it seems?
Man loves man, wives get hurt, man who love man cant get man due to society's views, man and man split up and get hurt... story ends.. no hope ... blah blah..
Personally I feel there are much more interesting and movies out there...
Think I will skip this till I can see it on Tv..
LLD
Zoom8
Well-known member
This falls into the category of "real" movies -- which to me are movies primarily concerned with story & character and which are told in a masterful manner.
Recent examples for me also include "The Squid & The Whale" and "Good Night & Good Luck."
So, yes this is a film worth the attention of folks who are interested in "real" movies -- as opposed to the FX-driven extravaganza genre.
And no the trailer does NOT give it all away -- not by a long shot.
Recent examples for me also include "The Squid & The Whale" and "Good Night & Good Luck."
So, yes this is a film worth the attention of folks who are interested in "real" movies -- as opposed to the FX-driven extravaganza genre.
And no the trailer does NOT give it all away -- not by a long shot.
Shaun Patrick said:
That's kind of a pretentious question, isn't it?
I saw "Hulk."
I don't care for westerns. Cowboys just don't interest me, period.
Rasquachemedia
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NEW WORLD was nothing spectacular as far as a love story is concerned. the cinematography was great.
i hope to get a chance to see brokeback mountain in the next few days.
i hope to get a chance to see brokeback mountain in the next few days.
metimo
Active member
Incidentally, a couple of extras in the New World were in a short I made last year. I almost want to ruin their careers by putting it on their imdb pages... ha.
Anyway, I saw brokeback and thought it was pretty good. It was organic, like someone else said, but otherwise not that technically interesting to look at (except that one shot that's like a pov through some binocs). The thing I liked the most about the movie was the acting. I really was stunned by everyone's performances, considering what they'd done in the past. Also, I kept thinking it would end, but it wouldn't. Not saying that it was too long, because it might very well be, but there were certain cues that suggested to me that the story was done, but then it kept on going.
otherwise, good, solid story that doesn't rely on a twist ending. nice.
Anyway, I saw brokeback and thought it was pretty good. It was organic, like someone else said, but otherwise not that technically interesting to look at (except that one shot that's like a pov through some binocs). The thing I liked the most about the movie was the acting. I really was stunned by everyone's performances, considering what they'd done in the past. Also, I kept thinking it would end, but it wouldn't. Not saying that it was too long, because it might very well be, but there were certain cues that suggested to me that the story was done, but then it kept on going.
otherwise, good, solid story that doesn't rely on a twist ending. nice.
The Machinist
Respected Member
My problem with this is your stating it as a fact rather than an opinion. An opinion i completely disagree with. I felt that New World ran the gamut of human emotion in a compelling way. The fact that it was able to accomplish this with such little dialogue (not counting the voiceover which i feel is a detriment but one i was able to overlook because sometimes the images are more important than the words) is a triumph on the part of Malick (of whom I am not a fan, this is the first work of his i have ever liked). If film is a visual medium then New World embraces this medium and utilizes it in a way to tell its story like few films i can recall.
I've heard complaints about the pacing but IMO i feel they are unfounded. This isnt a simple romance told over the course of a few days, weeks, or months. This story spans years and encompasses the beauty and complexity of love in a way i did not think was possible.
I did not expect much from New World but what I got was one of the most inspiring cinematic experiences in my life.
It reached out to me and i connected with it on a personal level.
Jeremy Ordan
Major Contributor
To bring it back around and to also throw a word of caution to this thread I think that Brokeback Mountain is an amazing film. I highly recommend it to anyone who is a fan of movies. Personally I'm not a western fan, an afficienado of gay cinema, or a huge proponent of hidden agendas in films. All that being said, this is a movie that sits with you for days after you see it. It is not a love story about two cowboys, and I know that is how things are being presented. It is simply a love story.
That being said, I think it is insane for someone to demand that people see a movie (not that anyone has done that) or for people to argue over why someone may not want to see this. I never saw War of the Worlds in theatres, does that mean that I'm xenophobic or I have something against scientologists? Nope.
I truly belive that if you are interested in cinema this is a great film to see in the theatre or at the very least, worthy of a rental. For me, having seen it twice now, it has changed the way I view filmmaking, story telling, sound acquisition, and an actors role in a piece. My writing style has changed since I saw this film (yes, I still ramble in my posts, so what?). For me, this has been one of the most influential films I've ever seen.
That all being said, if you want to see it, go see it. If you are on the fence, go see it. If you have no interest, that's your right.
That being said, I think it is insane for someone to demand that people see a movie (not that anyone has done that) or for people to argue over why someone may not want to see this. I never saw War of the Worlds in theatres, does that mean that I'm xenophobic or I have something against scientologists? Nope.
I truly belive that if you are interested in cinema this is a great film to see in the theatre or at the very least, worthy of a rental. For me, having seen it twice now, it has changed the way I view filmmaking, story telling, sound acquisition, and an actors role in a piece. My writing style has changed since I saw this film (yes, I still ramble in my posts, so what?). For me, this has been one of the most influential films I've ever seen.
That all being said, if you want to see it, go see it. If you are on the fence, go see it. If you have no interest, that's your right.
J.R. Hudson
Spirit Animal
I said I'd see it already; jeeeeez.
Jeremy Ordan
Major Contributor
John_Hudson said:
I'm not busting your balls or pointing a finger at you. :grin:
TC said:
I'm having a hard time writing 06 on my checks still, give a guy a break
kimko
Veteran
I TOTALLY AGREE I SAW IT WHEN IT CAME OUT(NO B..PUN INTENDED)I'M A COWBOY I SAW FLAWS I'VE ALREADY WRITTEN ABOUT ALREADY! THE LOVE SCENE WAS NOT REAL TO ME. IT WAS TOO ROUGH AND TWO VIRGINS WOULD NOT DO IT THAT FAST. I DON'T WANT TO GET EXPLICIT BUT COME ON. IT JUST WAS A LOT OF HYPE BECAUSE A MINORITY THING GOING ON POLITICAL CORRECTNESS BULLCRAP.BUT ONE THING I CAN SAY IS VERY GOOD ACTING ESPECIALLY HEATH.Draccan said:
seejay1031
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Why all the yelling? My ears hurt.