Bolex D16: RAW, 16/Super 16 sensor size, costs less than MkIII
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All the footage posted so far is from lab development prototypes using off the shelf software and firmware not specifically calibrated for the sensor.
The next footage posted will be from a complete production prototype, using the custom firmware and software that will ship with the camera. Probably sometime in October before we see that. The pictures posted above are the final production prototype body minus a few tweaks with no electronics installed yet. The engineering group were projecting completion of the first working production prototype with all of the finished production components and boards around the end of September. Hopefully testing for this goes well.
Postmaster
Dark Side of the Camera
might work upside down
LOL, why did I know that you gonna say that?
The finishes are all brushed matte anodized. The side panels are lighter color, but they haven't decided yet how dark the final version will be, the rest of the body is black.
October D16 update:
http://www.digitalbolex.com/october-camera-update/
Big news, color monitoring and in camera playback are new features.
Fixed link.
http://www.digitalbolex.com/october-camera-update/
Big news, color monitoring and in camera playback are new features.
Fixed link.
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Here's the link.
The board doesn't fit, the lens mount has to be redone, and they had to replace people. No one's getting this camera before the end of the year, and probably not until at least 2nd quarter next year (oh well for that film in Ireland that was planning to shot with this, right? Another reason why you don't plan a film around a camera you don't currently have in hand).
No mention of color monitoring.
Can't say I'm surprised.
Watch the short video clip of the monitor dsp board. Shows monitoring in color and gui overlay on three monitors, composite, HDMI, and onboard.
Glitches happen in any development process. I'd rather they take the time to get it right.
The board designers not communicating with the engineering team resulting in a board that won't fit isn't what I'd term a "glitch". It's a laughably absurd issue that reaffirms my original thoughts about this project.
Perfect example of why the big guys never show you anything about cameras under development. It is always a messy and unpredictable process regardless of who is doing it. Look what happened with the BMCC. They got blindsided by sensor QC issues that set them back two months on delivery.
What about Panasonic's screw up with the auto focus on the AC130? They put that into production and haven't corrected it yet.
The original Hubble telescope was launched with a lens design error in the camera optics package and wouldn't focus until they sent a shuttle mission to change it out.
Stuff happens.
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A screw up is a screw up. Not excusing it, just means a minor board redesign. At least they are being up front about it. Red went through similar issues with their first ASIC design too.
What issues did they have?
A hardware flaw in one of the layers, had to redesign it, cost them 6 months. If board spin times are typical, this will cost Bolex a month, maybe a little less if they are lucky. Unfortunate.
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What was the hardware flaw and in what layer?
Barry_Green
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Not sure what Razz is referring to, but the original Red audio design was just awful and they ended up recalling all the cameras and replacing all the audio systems in them.
And -- look, aside from anything else -- why take stabs at folks who are trying to do something? At least they're out there, on the field, making an effort. They may not know what they're doing (and, frankly, I got that impression so strongly long ago that I canceled my DB pledge and dropped out of the project) but -- after that, what's the point in trying to mock 'em or drag 'em down?
There's a million old quotes of wisdom I could drag out there, starting with "If you don't have something nice to say, don't say anything at all" and ending with ""It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself for a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
Because they took other people's money who may or may not get anything for it?
By that same token, should one never call out a snake oil salesman?
But, agreed, this can really go nowhere at the moment until it becomes clear one way or the other.
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S. Matthews
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Razz is referring to the development of the DSMC line not the R1, it was before even epic-m was released to anyone I think. But to think that nothing would go wrong on this project is wishful thinking, but then again who isn't guilty of that every now and then. Especially when you have invested your time money and emotions.
Everything is simple to put down on paper, bringing it into the real world is a whole other story, and none of us are exempt of that from NASA down to a 6 year old designing his Halloween costume.
Ah well, have a good one!
Everything is simple to put down on paper, bringing it into the real world is a whole other story, and none of us are exempt of that from NASA down to a 6 year old designing his Halloween costume.
Ah well, have a good one!