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eureka

eureka

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Cant wait for the price of consumables/drives for Blue RAy to come down.
What are people seeing pricing for around the place.

Archiving will be so much eaier..
 
There's an LG BD burner that I'm saving up for that's $299, it seems to be one of the better one's I've seen for the price.

It's the LG Electronics GGW-H20L
 
eureka said:
Cant wait for the price of consumables/drives for Blue RAy to come down.
What are people seeing pricing for around the place.

Archiving will be so much eaier..
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Won't be coming down for a while. After HD-DVD dropped out Blu-Ray prices went up.
 
The PS3 is only $400.

I bought one barely used from a friend a week ago for $250.


edit: sorry, I wasn't thinking
 
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Interesting. So would you say the customers won when VHS beat Beta? A case where the inferior format won.

I wouldn't. Why would you say we lost here? Less competition maybe? That's the only angle I can imagine you're coming from. There will still be competition between blu-ray disc and device makers and it will stabilize and become reasonable just like DVD's and DVD players won't it?

I don't feel I've lost as a consumer when to me it seems
1) I don't have to worry about having two incompatible formats and needing two players eventually.
2) I have the same image and sound with more storage space.

Would you rather have to deal with #1 or have less capacity as in #2 in order to have lower prices immediately?
 
I think part of the reason that blu-ray prices haven't gone down yet is because Sony initially refused to let Chinese companies manufacture blu-ray players: http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/...r-but-no-cheap-chinese-models/?ref=technology. Sony wants to sell enough of their own players at high prices to recoup the costs of developing and marketing the player before opening the flood gates to competition from no-name Chinese manufacturers. From the article: "Mr. Glasgow expressed hope that price levels wouldn’t collapse the way they did for DVD players. To protect against this, he said the Blu-ray Association, the group that controls the Blu-ray standard, has not licensed it to any manufacturers in China. (Cheap players from China were a large part of the collapse of the DVD player market.)"

The prices will probably go down when these brands hit the market, which this article says could be as soon as this Fall: http://www.current.com.au/2008/04/16/article/DILBMSEDMP.html. Once that happens the consumers will win by getting high-end electronics for dirt cheap. The only losers will be the workers assembling the things. But I'm guessing that the Sony players are being manufactured in Chinese or South East-Asian factories too, they're just marking them up considerably.


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The one thing I really liked from HD DVD was that most of the discs carry the 480P transfer that can be played on any DVD player.

That's a nice feature when you don't have a Blu-Ray player in every room of the house. It also saves me a bundle since I won't have to replace them now that HD DVD has lost the war. I can still watch them on any player. Upscaled to 1080P they still look pretty damn good.
 
The best part about this to me is that most people don't care and aren't buying Blu-ray (they didn't buy HD-DVD either). They were both unnecessary formats. SD DVDs are good enough. I'll step back and let the geeky format fanboys chime in here and tell me how wrong I am.:evil:
 
HorseFilms said:
The best part about this to me is that most people don't care and aren't buying Blu-ray (they didn't buy HD-DVD either). They were both unnecessary formats. SD DVDs are good enough. I'll step back and let the geeky format fanboys chime in here and tell me how wrong I am.:evil:
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Well, if you're watching on a projector and a large screen (>110")... HD 1080P is pretty sweet. Trust me. :D
 
HorseFilms said:
The best part about this to me is that most people don't care and aren't buying Blu-ray (they didn't buy HD-DVD either). They were both unnecessary formats. SD DVDs are good enough. I'll step back and let the geeky format fanboys chime in here and tell me how wrong I am.:evil:
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I agree that SD DVD is good enough but at the same time, at least on my 42" $900 Costco Vizio, HD is awesome, way better than SD DVD.
 
HorseFilms said:
The best part about this to me is that most people don't care and aren't buying Blu-ray (they didn't buy HD-DVD either). They were both unnecessary formats. SD DVDs are good enough. I'll step back and let the geeky format fanboys chime in here and tell me how wrong I am.:evil:
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I think the "good enough" attitude is valid, yet ironic.

I mean, if the point is just to see the image, than VHS is good enough. With special FX, if the point is just to tell a story, then special FX were plenty good enough in the 70's. If the point of video games is just to entertain, then the Nintendo was good enough.

But the entertainment industry isn't about what's "good enough" it's about improvement and progression; about bringing an overall better, more impressive, grander, and as a result more enjoyable and entertaining experience. A 20" TV and a VHS player are "good enough", but a big screen and DVD and surround sound are better. Blu-Ray and a huge screen and 9.1 are even better, and certainly more enjoyable overall.

So yes, SD DVD = good enough. But the entertainment industry never has been and never will be about "good enough." That phrase is best left to mundane work and chores.
 
It´s only a mater of screen size x distance. At a certain point you can´t tell the difference because of the limitations of the human eye.

At about 3.5 times the distance of the screen diameter.

Remembers me to those ultra HiFi freaks in the 80s and 90s talking about specs and frequencys only bats and dogs can hear.

Frank
 
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