Black and While Film film grain techniques for specific stocks.

[j1clark@ucsd.edu]

I'm experimenting with using the AE 'standard' film grain plugin, and am wondering what others use to get this effect, especially in terms of B&W film stocks.

The standard AE widget has a number of film stock presets, but they are all 'color' stocks. The standard Film film stock has been Double X since the late 50's early 60's. But B&W grain has a slightly different characteristic than color film.

Any thoughts... other than 'buy some expensive plugin'... (if there's a free plugin... sure...).

 

[altarvic]

You can use film grain scans, but I guess you want 8mm scans, not 35mm

 

[j1clark@ucsd.edu]

You can use film grain scans, but I guess you want 8mm scans, not 35mm

I was asking about using the After Effects 'grain' plugin, and if anyone had used it, and what parameters they used. In addition, if there was any 'free' plugin that purported to produce 'film grain', and what experience they may have had with such.

I'm aware that there are packages that do this, for varying amounts of money, but I was looking for 'what comes in the box', of AE, or 'free'.

In the case of Film film there were usually multiple 'grains' involved... in the original negative, and then through intermediate negs/positives, to a final 'projection print'.

You might say that I'm just dealing with one layer of 'grain', which would correspond to the 'negative grain'.

As for the film size... no, I'm think 35mm B&W which the last Kodak offering to be used in standard Hollywood B&W production was Double X, ASA 200 as I recall. Kodak never went beyond Double X for movie film, as the industry abandoned B&W by the mid-60's for almost all commercial uses.