Bizarre Vegas Crash

monte

monte

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Wow this is wierd, I've been working on a project for about three weeks now. I am trying to render out a sequence I have been working on for some time and I'm running into a little problem.

Everytime the render gets to a certain point (the same point every single time) it crashes on me, giving me "Due to an Unknown Error" with the following details:

Here's what I'm thinking, it's either a problem with the dll in the vegas folder, sftrans.dll , but now I have pretty much falisified that claim by reinstalling vegas, and I'm still having trouble.

It seems to be referencing kernel32, which as we all know, is a core DLL in windows. Here's what I'm thinking, virus. The only thing I'm dubious about is reinstalling windows XP and wiping out my harddrives.

Comments/Suggestions?

Heres the logfile:

Sony Vegas 5.0
Version 5.0 (Build 122)
Exception 0xC0000005 (access violation) READ:0x13A0F508 IP:0x61CB5DB
In Module 'sftrans1.dll' at Address 0x6140000 + 0x8B5DB
Thread: Engine_RenderFromCookedSlices ID=0xD4C Stack=0x6CEE000-0x6CF0000
Registers:
EAX=000001e0 CS=001b EIP=061cb5db EFLGS=00010202
EBX=13a0f508 SS=0023 ESP=06cee970 EBP=00000b40
ECX=000002d0 DS=0023 ESI=13a0f508 FS=003b
EDX=095e1820 ES=0023 EDI=095e1820 GS=0000
Bytes at CS:EIP:
061CB5DB: F3 A5 8B CD 8B 6C 24 1C .....l
061CB5E3: 83 E1 03 F3 A4 03 54 24 ......T
Stack Dump:
06CEE970: 00000000
06CEE974: 09490020 09490000 + 20
06CEE978: 06CEEB3C 06BF0000 + FEB3C
06CEE97C: 0000001D
06CEE980: 7C83934A 7C800000 + 3934A (kernel32.dll)
06CEE984: 09490020 09490000 + 20
06CEE988: 7C810198 7C800000 + 10198 (kernel32.dll)
06CEE98C: FFFFF4C0
06CEE990: 00152340 00140000 + 12340
06CEE994: 00000000
06CEE998: 000001E0
06CEE99C: 00000000
06CEE9A0: 06CEE980 06BF0000 + FE980
06CEE9A4: 06CEE98C 06BF0000 + FE98C
06CEE9A8: 061CC496 06140000 + 8C496 (sftrans1.dll)
06CEE9AC: 09490020 09490000 + 20
> 06CEEA64: 7C91056D 7C900000 + 1056D (ntdll.dll)
> 06CEEA8C: 7C910F46 7C900000 + 10F46 (ntdll.dll)
> 06CEEAA0: 00BC6142 00400000 + 7C6142 (vegas50.exe)
06CEEAA4: 00000000
06CEEAA8: 001940B8 00140000 + 540B8
06CEEAAC: 00000000
06CEEAB0: 00000000
> 06CEEAF4: 06188609 06140000 + 48609 (sftrans1.dll)
06CEEAF8: 13CC0D08 13B70000 + 150D08
06CEEAFC: 00000000
06CEEB00: FFFFF4C0
06CEEB04: 06CEEBB0 06BF0000 + FEBB0
> 06CEEB14: 06186D15 06140000 + 46D15 (sftrans1.dll)
06CEEB18: 06CEEB60 06BF0000 + FEB60
06CEEB1C: 00000000
06CEEB20: D1745D17
06CEEB24: 3FED1745
> 06CEEB30: 00BC6142 00400000 + 7C6142 (vegas50.exe)
06CEEB34: 00000000
> 06CEEB38: 06187189 06140000 + 47189 (sftrans1.dll)
- - -
06CEFFF0: 00000000
06CEFFF4: 004F9D80 00400000 + F9D80 (vegas50.exe)
06CEFFF8: 007DD9A8 00400000 + 3DD9A8 (vegas50.exe)
06CEFFFC: 00000000
 
Exception 0xC0000005 is usually a memory allocation problem. And, within that, usually reading beyond the "end" of the value.

It's not an error with Vegas, or even Windows...as such. It's just trying to do something it can't do. For instance, it may have to create and maintain X amount of buffers in memory to handle all the CC or effects or whatever, but gets tangled up trying to fit it all into memory.

Try turning EVERYthing else off while rendering. If Vegas will let you, minimize the program while it's doing it (most visible Windows controls in the program require a certain amount of resources to be shown...even when not being actively used).

You'll see the same error pop up in a LOT of programs, even Office, when things get complex.

Dan
 
Try changing you performance setting to best performance.

START/CONTROL PANEL/SYSTEM/ADVANCED/PERFORMANCE SETTINGS/ADJUST FOR BEST PERFORMANCE.

go to advanced tab and change everything to programs.
 
So is there any way for it to use other memory other than having to get more ram, which I will do eventually but I'm broke atm.

That's it right? It's running out of memory to supply the function it is trying to achieve, I'm actually only running this with 256mb ram, a p4 1.8ghz processor and sheer determination.

Thanks guys
 
Ouch, there is your problem right there. Your a little under specked for vegas, I think the minimum required is at least 512Mb, even 256Mb running winXP is a little iffy. If you have one stick of 256ram in your computer, you can probably get a second for about 40 bucks, depending on your computer. But running vegas, or any ram intesive program with such little ram is going to give you problems.
 
Adding more memory might help. You should, anyway...256 is not really enough.

But don't be surprised if this error still pops up. If it's a resource allocation error, more memory might not help. For instance, if Windows is written to only be able to handle 1000 buffers at a time, but something needs 1002...it will still choke on it.

Dan
 
It's probably due to me having 7 layers of a heavily rotoed element, all with atleast 11 effects on them and multiple layers of transparancy... ontop of 3 layers of backround each with their own effects and transparancies...

But it looks so cooool!

Hmm... maybe I have to tone it down then... I guess this would be one of the advantages of doing all this kind of work on an inferno system or something eh...
 
Hmmm....is there any way to splice separate renders...like do half of it, then the other half and glue 'em together?

Maybe do the half-n-half thing, but render to a new track, then put them end-to-end.

The complex renders would already be done, so the "output render" would just be the codec.

Never tried it...but it seems to me it might work ok. But, just to be safe, I'd pick a transition point to be the "halfway" mark, just in case the splice doesn't go as smoothly as you'd want.

Dan
 
UPDATE: Ok - a whole new problem, I was working on the project, I alleviated the problem, now there's this whole new enigma...

What happened was I saved the project I was working on, and turned off the machine, came back a few hours later, turned it on and fired up vegas, but before I could get into the program, as it was loading a little box popped up - ERROR - giving me the following log:


Sony Vegas 5.0
Version 5.0 (Build 122)
Exception 0xC0000005 (access violation) READ:0x154 IP:0x4E34D7
In Module 'vegas50.exe' at Address 0x400000 + 0xE34D7
Thread: GUI ID=0x21C Stack=0x124000-0x130000
Registers:
EAX=001e80ac CS=001b EIP=004e34d7 EFLGS=00210202
EBX=05196fd8 SS=0023 ESP=001241d0 EBP=00000002
ECX=00000154 DS=0023 ESI=00000000 FS=003b
EDX=00000154 ES=0023 EDI=00000001 GS=0000
Bytes at CS:EIP:
004E34D7: 8B 32 89 74 24 28 8B 4A .2.t$(.J
004E34DF: 04 89 4C 24 2C 8B 42 08 ..L,.B.
Stack Dump:
001241D0: 00000005
001241D4: 00000000
001241D8: 0389CBC0 03860000 + 3CBC0
001241DC: 05196FD8 05090000 + 106FD8
001241E0: 00000000
001241E4: 0450EDF8 04410000 + FEDF8
001241E8: 0450E7D8 04410000 + FE7D8
001241EC: 0450F418 04410000 + FF418
001241F0: 00000002
001241F4: 00000002
001241F8: 000000F5
001241FC: 0110005B 01000000 + 10005B (vegas50k.dll)
00124200: 0110005A 01000000 + 10005A (vegas50k.dll)
00124204: 000000AF
00124208: 004EB78D 00400000 + EB78D (vegas50.exe)
0012420C: 090103C3 09010000 + 3C3
> 00124224: 77F178DC 77F10000 + 78DC (GDI32.dll)
> 00124258: 77F178EE 77F10000 + 78EE (GDI32.dll)
> 00124268: 004EC379 00400000 + EC379 (vegas50.exe)
0012426C: 00000002
00124270: 090103C3 09010000 + 3C3
00124274: 0389CBC0 03860000 + 3CBC0
00124278: 090103C3 09010000 + 3C3
> 0012427C: 77F16899 77F10000 + 6899 (GDI32.dll)
> 001242F4: 00610052 00400000 + 210052 (vegas50.exe)
> 001242F8: 00650074 00400000 + 250074 (vegas50.exe)
- - -
0012FFF0: 00000000
0012FFF4: 00000000
0012FFF8: 00726E30 00400000 + 326E30 (vegas50.exe)
0012FFFC: 00000000


What the hell is going on here, it was working fine just a few hours ago, the only major thing that I did was save it when I had added a few .pngs into the mix...

Ideas on what is causing this and how to alleviate it?
 
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