best card for Vegas...?

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Grover

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Hi, folks.

I'm building a system for a friend who has some $ to spend and plans on DVD production, and I think I've finally decided on going with Vegas (so we can do 24pA in certain parts of the DVD's).

(My system has DV500+ with Premiere 6.0, as I was a poor student at the time.)

In regards to HIS system, which capture card do you think I should get for him, if we're going to use Vegas?

THANKS!

Grover
 
Re: best card for Vegas...?

Any OHCI compliant Firewire interface will do. Vegas is a very powerful and responsive application on its own and on a newer, faster system will perform just great without the additional capture card. Actually, you don't need any special card for capture, most capture cards just use a standard Firewire interface. What you get by purchasing a Canopus or other more expensive card is the added ability to run certain things in real-time, usually a couple streams and a graphics layer or whatnot. For DV res video, the latest 800MHz FSB P4 systems will tear through it just as fast, and sometimes faster than the best capture cards (unless you spend a heap of cash). Not to mention, you will need to pick a card that will fully support Vegas. Seems most work with Premiere or other softwares as Vegas tends to stand alone.
 
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applied is dead on, all the cheap cards work the same, however if you can choose a card with gold contacts, as I have worn out a few ports already just pluggin in and out all the time.
 
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FWIW I got one of those ATI Radeon video cards with dual monitor support and TV out. While I only use one monitor, I do extend my desktop onto my TV when I'm editing and put the Vegas preview window on it. It's a much more accurate way to view your footage - at least compared to my LCD screen plus I can almost go full screen with it and still get good previews.
 
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Actually, i think my friend's motherboard has 1394 ports...so he won't need a card. However, he also wants to be able to output to analogue/VHS. I use DV500; what do you VV users do to output to analogue?

As for putting the preview monitor screen on the TV, this brings up another issue (probably should be it's own thread).

I recently shot night footage at the local fair for a short I'm doing. (no signatures-- guerrila all the way!)
Anyhoo, like an idiot, I didn't adjust the settings, left the cinegama on, etc. Now, on the one CU, it's very dark. Color (brightness) correction doesn't look good at all. HOWEVER, when I run the original footage through the TV through the "breakout box" (NOT extending the preview screen onto the TV as 24Peter described), the image IS NOT TOO DARK, in fact, it looks fine.
So this seems to come back to the old NTSC color calibrated monitor crap I hate and know nothing about and don't want to be bothered with.
Which image is true? ???

thanks guys!
 
Re: best card for Vegas...?

If he'll be going out to analog just to a VCR/VHS, a good solution might be the external video I/O converters from Canopus. There's the ADVC-50, ADVC-100 and ADVC-500. The 50 and 100 models are usually pretty affordable and what they are is an external box that plugs into a firewire port and allows input/output of analog video signals.
 
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you can obviously as well just analog out through firewire to your camera to the vcr.
 
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[quote author=Zoomforce link=board=Vegas;num=1062122718;start=0#6 date=08/30/03 at 14:15:05]you can obviously as well just analog out through firewire to your camera to the vcr.[/quote]
Good god, yes! I didn't even consider that--too used to hooking up the "breakout box!"


(ps. any advice about the "dark footage?")
 
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the darkness doesnt mean something is wrong, its just your monitor and tv have two different setups.
 
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i guess what i'm wondering is, which is more accurate, ie, when i output to tape, and then burn to DVD, which will be there (for festival entry); too dark (monitor), or visible (TV)
...or is there no real way to tell, except to DO IT.

thanks

EG

ps. the reason I aint done it is I don't have mpeg 2/DVD capability yet...gonna use friend's, once it's up n' running...
 
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footage for me is always brighter on a monitor than my computer screen, if that helps. remember the setup in NTSC is 7.5 IRE, your computer is 0 IRE. If your end result is TV (DVD) then go by what your TV shows you. Just make sure you tune your tv using the color bars to make sure you are looking at an "average" correct brightness.
 
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 That's cool then, that DVD will typically be similar to the TV look, unless you said that implying I would be watching the DVD on a TV.

 The thing is, I'm going to DVD for film festival entry...who knows how those projectors will display brightness/colors...?

edit: I should say, who knows if the projectors will project the DVD as it will look on a TV, or as it would look on a monitor...

so many things to worry about!
 
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