Benchmark: H.264/dSLR performance on Vegas Pro 10

Interesting. Thanks

BTW - That info would be much more easily consumable if it were put in a table.
 
You say "Vegas Pro 9 32bit (Platinum 9/10 numbers should be pretty close to this)"

I recently upgraded from Platinum 9 to Movie Studio HD Platinum 10 (I'm too cheap to buy pro) and Plat HD10 blows away 9. I still had Plat9 installed on my computer so I was able to do back to back test. There was simply no comparison. I have a fast computer (AMD Phenom 3.2 gig 6 core) and Plat 9 still struggled at times. Same exact clips with Plat10 plays them in real time.

So unless I'm missing something I believe Vegas Move Studio Platinum HD 10 also shares the same optimizations.
 
I wrote "should" and not "is" because while I do have Platinum 10, it's installed on a different PC, so my test does not apply to it. However, on that other PC, its speed was not better than its predecessor, Platinum 9. Well, at least for me.

EDIT: apparently the DLL responsible for the speed up exists on Platinum 10 too, but it's possibly a generation older, and maybe that's why it doesn't appear to speed up a lot on my other PC. Can't say for sure.
 
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Very good news!

I have v9 but never installed it (never got round to it) and Im using a Pana HMC150 here.

I think Ill pony up and get v10 if it does indeed launch AVCCAM / AVCHD footage into space speed wise.
 
Do we know if Vegas Movie Studio HD Platinum 10 will now edit Canon DSLR .MOV files natively as Pro 10 does? I'd love to eliminate the coversion step...
 
Hey Eugenia,

Bought the upgrade and threw in a HMC150 clip and start playing around on the timeline but it looks just as choppy as Pro 8.0c :

http://www.uxxv.com/choppyvegas10.mov

Intel Core 2 Quad - Q6600 @ 3.4GHz per core. 4GB RAM. 8800GT 512mb SVGA. 2 x 2tb Drives etc

Is there a setting in preferences needed to enable stuff, I also did a quick render out MP4 using the Sony codec and I didnt see that being any faster than 8.0c either, I thought my 8800GT was CUDA enabled and would therefore go quicker :(

Any advice for a 10 Pro noob ? :)

Cheers,

Rik
 
Eugenia Loli-Queru said:
My first benchmark for Vegas Pro 10, regarding its newly optimized h.264 decoder!
http://eugenia.queru.com/2010/10/08/h-264-performance-on-vegas-pro-10/
No more need for Cineform/DNxHD/MatroxAVI, or proxies!
Click to expand...

Plese click the following link for info. http://www.studio1productions.com/Articles/PremiereCS5.htm

I am not sure how reliable your benchmarks are. I can play back native AVCHD at 1920 X 1080 at full resolution with a medicore 2.66 GHZ Core 2 Quad and Nvidia 9400 GT using PP CS4. PP CS5's performance will vary depeding on the graphics card being used in your system. An Nvidia 8400, 8800, 9400 or even the 9600 will not get any type of a performance boost. They same is true for the GT 120 and 220 but the GT 240 will see a nice increase in performance. Every one needs a graphics card and the GT 240 with 1 GB of RAM can be had for just under $80.00. Spend an extra $50.00 and you can get much better graphics card. You need at least 96 CUDA cores and 1 GB of video RAM which is what the GT 240 has.


Can Vegas 10 do this (click the following link)? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lyJxBtQqMg

I am not saying Vegas 10 is no good. I just want people to be aware of the power of the MPE. In the end it is the GUI that should matter most. Some folks like Premiere Pro others like Vegas. It seems both can edit native AVCHD.
 
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Mediaajic: AVCHD is a 'clunky' Codec? If you are doing 'benchmarks' please use accurate terminology. It's a codec, as I understand it, for shooting not editing in particular. It's not 'clunky' when you are shooting in the field and wanting to put a huge amount of video on a 32 GB card. Neither are a half dozen other codecs that are primarily in use for shooting, not editing. Also, are you sure you didn't cache some of that video by accident? I might have exited out of the NLE before rerunning the same clip. You might even be getting a combination of both caching in the application/standard video card, and then acceleration with caching! But I'm no expert in benchmarking... it just seems like you haven't reset the machine before rerunning the test. In other words, I wonder whether your baseline changed.

But the issue remains that for those of us that have spent our money on Vegas, not Adobe, or Apple, that a strong improvement in AVCHD playback inside the NLE without transcoding would be great. Interesting that it seems to coincide with Sony actually releasing cameras with the codec in use. Now to get the damn playback off the main CPU and into the graphics card, which is where it should be in the first place, as Mediaajic's tests *seem* to show. Both Apple and Adobe have gone that route with great success, and it's really time to offload the processing of the graphics. It appears that Adobe has done it quite well, and of course, you need to transcode *everything* AVCHD for Apple and probably will always.
 
Hey 8 String, where did I use inaccurate terminology? I never stated AVCHD is a good codec for editing but that is what codec Eugenia used and my results are very different. I am only commenting on her benchmarks dude so please adress your AVCHD comments towards Eugenia, not me. Also that was not my system in the link I posted. I stated I only have CS4 with no MPE. Below is a link to my HD system. I am editing native AVCHD and native HDV. With an i7 I can get a few effects to work in realtime with native AVCHD at full resolution. As you can tell it can not be cashed out because I applied a filter in the video and start the playback right there on the fly. If I was prerendering clips I would not have posted on this thread and it is kind odd for you to imply that I accidentaly cached out the file. I know how to use my system. Please click on the link below for proof.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY33kyQ52hg

The benchmarks below were done by Eugenia using AVCHD. The benchmarks below are what this thread is about. I am only stating my results are much different than Eugenia's as you folks can see.


Vegas Pro 9 32bit (Pro/Platinum 7/8/9 numbers should be pretty close to this):
30p 1080p Canon 5D file: about 8 fps
720/60p 7D file: about 10 fps
720/30p Canon P&S digicam file: 25-30 fps
Main Profile CABAC MP4 720/30p: 12 fps
AVCHD 60i: 28-30 fps (near real-time)
Premiere Pro CS5 64bit (software rendering):
30p 1080p Canon 5D file: choppy (~10-20 fps, no exact numbers available)
720/60p 7D file: choppy (~10-20 fps, no exact numbers available)
720/30p Canon P&S digicam file: real-time
Main Profile CABAC MP4 720/30p: real-time
AVCHD 60i: Anywhere between 10 and 30 fps (very choppy at times)
Vegas Pro 10 32bit (64bit version was identical in numbers):
30p 1080p Canon 5D file: smooth, real-time playback
720/60p 7D file: smooth, real-time playback
720/30p Canon P&S digicam file: smooth, real-time playback
Main Profile CABAC MP4 720/30p: smooth, real-time playback
AVCHD 60i: smooth, real-time playback
 
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