Behringer UB802 or Behringer 802 Mixer???

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I am thinking of purchasing the Behringer UB802 Eurorack Mixer with 8 inputs for my documentary and feature film audio. However, I've noticed the Behringer 802 mixer is available too. I'm a one person crew when filming on my Panasonic cameras, but the audio controls are on the side of the camera and the tiny levels are difficult to adjust when I'm recording. Both mixers have 2 XLR inputs for recording documentary 2-person interviews.`

I'm looking to spend less than $75 to purchase a mixer with decent quality at this time and I can upgrade later.

Can an audio engineer / sound recordist help me?:dankk2:
 
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Hey there, I'm not sure what your quality requirements are, but when people say things like "feature film" to me along with the term "spend less than $75" , I get a little nervous.

The professional answer - A $75 mixer, (especially Behringer and similar) just doesnt cut it for broadcast quality, professional work. It never will. If you want a broadcast quality 2 input system, the lowest you should look at is the Sound Devices Mixpre - it costs around $600. I would have to say the Behringers have BELOW decent quality, you will notice it in post.

The non-professional answer - If you aren't shooting for broadcast, just for fun, or a hobby - sure, buy a $75 mixer. You WILL want to upgrade very soon though, so I wouldn't recommend it, but like I said if its for fun, then why not.


Sorry if thats not the answer you want, but sadly its the truth.
 
Just to give you a frame of reference, the sound equipment (mics, mixers, wireless, recorder etc) on a decent budget feature will be worth anywhere from 50k to 150k...
 
Behringer mixers are terrible. But, as Tim says, if you're just looking to play around, then you will be fine with Behringer. Do a search for Behringer and you will find my posts detailing my personal experience with Behringer mixers.

If you want to keep it cheap, look for used Mackie mixers on eBay. Most of the Mackies are acceptable, quality-wise. Alesis also makes good mixers, and you can probably pick one up for a reasonable price.

Believe me, I understand you're on a budget - but if you spend in the neighborhood of $2000 +/- for your camera, why do you think that you can get good sound for $75?

Phil
 
When you want to get some good sound you will need:

SD Mixpre $665 or SD302 $1200
Gitzo GB3560 boom $270
K-tek KSSM Shockmount $120
Oktava MK012 with Hypercardioid capsule $180 or AKG Blueline with CK 93 hyper cardioid capsule $500
Rycote Baby Ball Gag 20mm $140
Rycote Furry Jammer $70
Audio Technica 4073a Shotgun $550 or Sanken cs3e Shotgun $1250
K-Tek K-Zepp $550
Mixer snake with breakaways $250
GOOD Starquad XLR at least 2x 25' and 2x 50' $200
Sony 7506 Headphones $100
Petrol Mixer bag for SD302 $135
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Wireless (you probably want 2 of each thing listed below)
Senneheiser ew100 G2 system with hand mic transmitter $600
Replacement lav for stock sennheiser MK2 wired for G2... say countryman ewm? $200
EVRE50 hand held mic $200


hmmm did I wiss something?
 
While I understand why the portable mixers are so sought after, I have gotten great results from a panel mixer. For documentary work, you pretty much need to work from a bag, but when shooting a scripted film working out of a cart is just easier (for me anyway). Ptalsky is right about the Mackies and Alesis mixers. I actually got a 1202 on ebay pretty cheap that I was using until I finally upgraded to the Onyx 1220. The 1202 sounded pretty good and they're built well (I'm just not a big fan of pot faders instead of sliding faders). The Onyx sounds great, has sliding faders, and both balanced and firewire discrete outputs. I hear good things about the firewire Alesis mixers but stay away from the USB ones. Sane's got great mic/accessory recommendations up there as well.
 
I just bought the Alesis io26 for a music project I'm working on, and it ROCKS. Alesis really make incredible gear given the price - well built, nice sound, innovative products.
 
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