Behind the Scenes with Nancy Schreiber, ASC

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Behind the Scenes with Nancy Schreiber, ASC

I hope you will join us for a Free live webinar Tuesday November 20th 2023 at 10:00 AM to 11:15 AM California time with Cinematographer Nancy Schreiber, ASC

Diverse Perspectives: Navigating Challenges and Triumphs Across the Industry – A Conversation Welcoming All Voices, Embracing Diversity and Inclusion. Register: https://us06web.zoom.us/meeting/regi...#/registration

Today's free live workshop is with Emmy winning Director Shane Stanley. You can register here: https://us06web.zoom.us/meeting/regi...#/registration

"How to develop a unique visual language for your film that enhances the storytelling experience. This session will cover the selection of shots, camera movements, and visual motifs to convey emotions and narrative themes. Filmmakers of all levels will benefit from this exploration of cinematic storytelling."



To see all upcoming webinars visit: https://www.studentfilmmakers.com/li...akingwebinars/
 
kimwelch said:
Diverse Perspectives: Navigating Challenges and Triumphs Across the Industry – A Conversation Welcoming All Voices, Embracing Diversity and Inclusion.
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Sounds awful. Let me know when Nancy is going to talk about cameras or lighting.
 
Thank you for the constructive criticism, I will let Nancy know this. We let them choose the topics. She did many webinars over the last few months as well as 10 other ASC members and covered lighting, camera, camera movement, color, action, set lighting on many award winning films by award winning filmmakers. I am sorry I didn't let you know about them Doug. I will keep you posted. Today's webinar is not by a cinematographer but he is an award winning director and he will be talking about how to develop a unique visual language which might fit your desire. Please check with us from time to time or sign up for the community and stay tuned. We have a number of great professional cinematographers that will be talking about the things you are interested in.
 
kimwelch said:
"How to develop a unique visual language for your film that enhances the storytelling experience. This session will cover the selection of shots, camera movements, and visual motifs to convey emotions and narrative themes. Filmmakers of all levels will benefit from this exploration of cinematic storytelling."
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According to the linked page, that description is to a different webinar, given by one Shane Stanley, not the Schrieber one. I saw that many webinars in that series are given by the "Multi-Emmy® Award-Winning Filmmaker Shane Stanley" and was curious as to who this distinguished individual might be. Received those Emmys many years ago working for his dad on broadcast docs (one of those categories where all the camera operators receive the award, not as individuals), in recent years makes low budget B movies presumably for the foreign market. He might give a great webinar and perhaps his insights are deeper than his body of work would suggest, but it's a misleading use of the phrase "multi-Emmy award-winning filmmaker" as far as I'm concerned.

It's a pet peeve of mine. I have camera operator friends on the broadcast world who have shelves full of Emmys who would never use that phrase. My buddy Dave Chameides is an incredible operator (last year was awarded Operator of the Year by the SOC for Ozark). In his twenties he was killing it as A Camera/Steadicam operator on ER and West Wing. ER did a live episode and they "allowed" him to join the broadcast team to shoot handheld (he had to fight to be included, somewhat hilariously), and all the operators on that took home an Emmy for the live show. Same thing happened a year later with a live production of "Fail Safe". He's operated on many features and series since then, is highly regarded by his peers yet I have never seen him describe himself as Emmy-award winning, largely because those particular jobs were not really about his own work.
 
Hi Charles Papert, I disagree. Not only is Shane freaking awesome and Nancy Freaking awesome but I think it's very clear: See my original post and click under "Behind the Scenes with Nancy Schreiber, ASC" I have some real peeves too but I don't think denigrating people is one of them or appropriate as a human being and certainly not towards a free resource to encourage and support filmmakers. Would you rather I not share our free webinars with top-notch professional filmmakers and encourage and help filmmakers get their films made here on these forums?
 
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Kim, I was calling it like I see it. I'm not denigrating him as a person--I already pointed out that he may be a gifted speaker and have a solid body of knowledge, and if something I said about his career is not factual, I would appreciate it if you would correct me--but I am questioning the promotion tactic you are using. I'm seeing that in your last post to Doug you say "award-winning" three more times so I have a pretty good sense you consider that to be a crucial yardstick of success and ability. To me it is largely a turn-off when pushed out in front like that, and in this case I feel the specific wording used is misleading.

I never said you shouldn't share your webinars. I never said you shouldn't encourage filmmakers. If I felt that was the case, I wouldn't be here myself. I do a ton of mentoring and helping new filmmakers, as well as teach and do webinars and guest on podcasts and all of that. But I won't let myself be misrepresented, if I can help it (it does happen from time to time, when I get attributed to have DP'd something that I operated etc).

As far as the text I quoted, I continue to see that attributed to the first Shane webinar on the page, not under Nancy's even when I click on it. It's no big deal either way.

This was assuredly a snippier post than I usually make. I'm recovering from flu and probably much edgier than usual. If you want, I'd be happy to delete my post if you want to just eliminate this conversation from the thread. I still own the overall statement, but I don't need to come off like I'm making a personal attack on someone I don't know. You let me know. This is meant to promote Nancy's webinar and I don't want to hurt that in any way (I have known Nancy a long time--Tom Ackerman too btw).
 
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Thank you for the constructive criticism, I will let Nancy know this. We let them choose the topics. .
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You're welcome. Happy to help any way that I can.

Maybe I just don't understand what the webinar is about. I don't see any details about the content on the website. So, could you tell me more about the information that will be covered during tomorrow's "Navigating Challenges and Triumphs Across the Industry – A Conversation Welcoming All Voices,Embracing Diversity and Inclusion" webinar and how it relates to film making?
 
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Kim, I was calling it like I see it. I'm not denigrating him as a person--I already pointed out that he may be a gifted speaker and have a solid body of knowledge, and if something I said about his career is not factual, I would appreciate it if you would correct me--but I am questioning the promotion tactic you are using. I'm seeing that in your last post to Doug you say "award-winning" three more times so I have a pretty good sense you consider that to be a crucial yardstick of success and ability. To me it is largely a turn-off when pushed out in front like that, and in this case I feel the specific wording used is misleading.

I disagree with you completely. Shane is an Emmy award winner with multiple Emmy awards and he is such a great person and encourages and instructs at the highest level. You can contact READ: Shane Stanley - Wikiwand and as for as Student Filmmakers Magazine. I can't even tell you the hundreds of thousands of dollars spent sending free magazines to schools and students and helping students. I don't know what got inside you but you're wrong. I hope you get over it.
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You're welcome. Happy to help any way that I can.

Maybe I just don't understand what the webinar is about. I don't see any details about the content on the website. So, could you tell me more about the information that will be covered during tomorrow's "Navigating Challenges and Triumphs Across the Industry – A Conversation Welcoming All Voices,Embracing Diversity and Inclusion" webinar and how it relates to film making?
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Usually there is a page with more information. I am not the only one working for Student Filmmakers Magazine. However, I do know this for sure. Nancy is an awesome working and active cinematographer and ASC member who shares her experience and know how with Students of all levels. I say students but we will have professionals working on $100 Million Dollars Movies in the room when she is doing her webinars. That is not an exaggeration. She usually does webinars about lighting, working with directors, look books, getting the job and she answers any question you can think of directly and concisely. She is super smart, hard working and has a passion for filmmaking and the filmmakers learning and growing in the industry.
 
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kimwelch said:
CharlesPapert said:
Kim, I was calling it like I see it. I'm not denigrating him as a person--I already pointed out that he may be a gifted speaker and have a solid body of knowledge, and if something I said about his career is not factual, I would appreciate it if you would correct me--but I am questioning the promotion tactic you are using. I'm seeing that in your last post to Doug you say "award-winning" three more times so I have a pretty good sense you consider that to be a crucial yardstick of success and ability. To me it is largely a turn-off when pushed out in front like that, and in this case I feel the specific wording used is misleading.

I disagree with you completely. Shane is an Emmy award winner with multiple Emmy awards and he is such a great person and encourages and instructs at the highest level. You can contact READ: Shane Stanley - Wikiwand and as for as Student Filmmakers Magazine. I can't even tell you the hundreds of thousands of dollars spent sending free magazines to schools and students and helping students. I don't know what got inside you but you're wrong. I hope you get over it.
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There's nothing for me to get over. We just disagree on your conflation of terms. I can tell from the passion within your response that any more elaboration I can give would fall on deaf ears, so I'll leave it here. I sincerely wish you and the program continued success.
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I see you didn't read the link Shane Stanley - Wikiwand and the disagreement is not about the conflation of terms. Let me be clear. I disagree with everything you said, your post, your demeanor, and your attitude. You put more effort into trying to discredit someone than you do in helping. Student Filmmakers Magazine is a great magazine. Instead of attacking my post and trying to discredit it and the webinar speaker, you might ask what Emmy award he won for clarification. Or even better you might ask if we are looking for webinar speakers, instructors with experience, and things like that... Student Filmmakers Magazine is a great publication that works with and for filmmakers of all levels.
 
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Here's what the wiki says (and I did in fact read it, before I even put up my first post), with bold points for emphasis.

"In 1988 Shane, along with Lee Stanley, Gary Milton, David Fixx and Carl Himmelman won Emmy Awards for their camera work on Desperate Passage which starred Michael Landon. The show was a recipient of four Emmy Award nominations and won two, making Shane the youngest to have won the award in any non-actor category. He was sixteen at the time.

In 1990, Stanley was again nominated for an Emmy Award along with Lee Stanley and Gary Milton for their camera work on Maiden Voyage starring Sharon Gless.

n 1991, Stanley was nominated for two Emmy Awards in the same category along with Lee Stanley, Philip Hurn, and Ken Schaefer for their work on Drug Watch L.A. and Drug Watch L.A. Second Edition. Drug Watch L.A. Second Edition was the winner awarding Shane his second Emmy Award.

So yes, reading this for the umpteenth time, why would I not think that the Emmys were awarded for camera operating? Now, going down to the credits at the bottom, as well as IMDB, I see that it shows him as a co-producer on Desperate Passage . If he received Emmys as a co-producer then I am completely incorrect in my assessment and I apologize for having brought the whole thing up. I'll repeat that so it is very clear: I apologize to you and to Shane for misrepresenting his work and achievements.

Funny that you say that if I wanted to help I could suggest speakers, teachers etc. I was actually trying to figure out a way to do just that but was concerned that it might come off like I was further trying to discredit Shane by suggesting someone that I thought would be better suited. Can you see how I might have thought it could have gone that way?

I agree, this hasn't served to help promote your webinars and I want to try to fix that. I'll put this out there one more time: why don't we just yank our respective posts to each other in the name of doing just that, shake hands and call it a day. And I'll think about who I can send your way who I think would be good for your program. Deal?

My big takeaway from this, as I lie here sleepless, wheezing from the worst flu I've had in 5 years...don't post on message boards when you aren't yourself...
 
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kimwelch said:
Usually there is a page with more information. I am not the only one working for Student Filmmakers Magazine. However, I do know this for sure. Nancy is an awesome working and active cinematographer and ASC member who shares her experience and know how with Students of all levels. I say students but we will have professionals working on $100 Million Dollars Movies in the room when she is doing her webinars. That is not an exaggeration. She usually does webinars about lighting, working with directors, look books, getting the job and she answers any question you can think of directly and concisely. She is super smart, hard working and has a passion for filmmaking and the filmmakers learning and growing in the industry.
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Hi Kim, please don't misunderstand my questions about the webinar. I am not questioning Nancy's credentials, experience, or willingness to help others. I have never met her but I have no reason to think she isn't excellent at what she does. However, I'm curious about the nature of THIS webinar. You have to admit that a title such as ""Navigating Challenges and Triumphs Across the Industry – A Conversation Welcoming All Voices, Embracing Diversity and Inclusion" sounds like a bunch of corporate-speak mumbo jumbo that HR makes people sit through. The fact that nobody has, or maybe can, put down an actual description of what this topic is about only reinforces my opinion that this is has nothing to do with the art or craft of film making.

Granted, I am a white male, so maybe I just not aware of it, but in my forty-year career (mostly television production) I have never witnessed any on-the-job problems with "diversity and inclusion"? When I am in a hiring position, the only thing I care about is whether or not someone can do the job. Period. And that has been my experience with EVERY shoot I have ever worked on. I don't think I'm a racist, bigot, xenophobe, or misogynist. Nor do I think the people I work with are a racist, bigots, xenophobes, or misogynists.

Is "diversity and inclusion" a chronic problem in the areas where Nancy works? If so, will she be speaking about specific instances and naming names? Who are these people? I would name names if I felt discrimination was going on where I worked. BTW, do you think the racists, bigots, xenophobes, and misogynisst will lbe attending so they can learn the error of their ways?


Unfortunately I will by flying this afternoon and won't be able to attend the live event. Will it be available for watching later?
 
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In the interest of full disclosure though, I have witnessed, and been the victim of discrimination many times because of non-union membership. Will that kind of discriminitation be addressed in the webinar? If no, why not? I think that kind of non-inclusion is a serious issue worth exploring.
 
kimwelch said:
Behind the Scenes with Nancy Schreiber, ASC

I hope you will join us for a Free live webinar Tuesday November 20th 2023 at 10:00 AM to 11:15 AM California time with Cinematographer Nancy Schreiber, ASC

Diverse Perspectives: Navigating Challenges and Triumphs Across the Industry – A Conversation Welcoming All Voices, Embracing Diversity and Inclusion. Register: https://us06web.zoom.us/meeting/regi...#/registration
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Hey KIm, is last week's webinar with Nancy available anywhere that it can be replayed now?
 
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