Beginners question

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Oguz Mazlum

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Hi guys,

As a beginner I have a question. I would like to shoot a scene with the Canon XL2 with the image quality like below. What do I need to make a shot like that. Do I need a 35mm adapter so yes what kind of a lens do i need to put it on the 35mm adapter. or is it just the 24p mode that gives this result. Can some one explain me what parts I need to shoot like that. Thank you for your time.

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Those look like they've been shot using a 35mm adaptor. A fast lens would be recommended - maybe get a zeiss 50mm 1.4 -if you can afford it.... As far as 35mm adaptors go i've heard great things about the ifocus, the brevis, the sgpro and of course the redrock micro m2 along with the letus 35. Go for prime lens over lens with more elements as they apparently reduce barrel distortion or some technical thingum
 
I agree Malcolm they definetley seem around 50mm.

Oguz most people around here are using either Nikon or Canon FD primes. Personally I like the canon fd's
 
I really dont see what screams 35mm adapter about these shots. they could just as well been shot with a long lens (meaning shooting from a further distance, but zoomed in.) I actually think these were probably not shot with an adapter or the DOF would have been shallower.
 
dude, REALLY not to sound like an ass, but if you dont understand what 24p is, DON'T spend anymore money on gear.

learn to use what you got and make great stuff. Practice a LOT, maybe for 1 year, THEN start looking at things that will help you achieve the vision you've developed.

And I agree, these look like they could have been the stock lens anyway so you'd be wasting money.
 
exactly! It's NOT the gear that makes for great looking production, it is the experienced guy(or girl) behind the camera. what yiou need to do before spending all your hard earned dough on a 35mm converter is learn how to shoot. (anyway, you money is better spent on a light kit)
 
The 35mm adapters price range $1k and up and that's not including the lens
you have to purchase, wide angle, standard and telephoto to accomplish the
shots you need. You're look at another $1k and up on those.

Walk before you run.
 
Thank you for you'r replys. I know that I have to learn to shoot like a pro but you also need the tools to shoot. The stock lens on XL2 does not provide the images above. So if I have the tools that give me that results than I can continue to be more experienced. Stock lens gives me the video look rather then film look.
 
Oguz Mazlum said:
The stock lens on XL2 does not provide the images above.
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um, I bet ya it does. Unless your talking about colors or lighting, and again, more "stuff" for your camera wont get that.

Oguz Mazlum said:
Stock lens gives me the video look rather then film look.
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video look rather than a film look? You're not communicating what you mean very well. Not to say that you don't have a valid point, but again, learn the tools you have (xl2 is one HELL of a tool!) and you'll be able to very specifically describe what you need, learn what you can and can't do and what furthur equipment you need.
 
no, dvx, but it is the stock lens. technically I think the xl2's chips are slightly larger which would mean even shallower depth of field.

anyway again, you CAN get those images with your stock xl2, it's a monster of a camera. you just need to learn to take advantage of the equipment you have first.
 
NewYorkLion said:
I really dont see what screams 35mm adapter about these shots. they could just as well been shot with a long lens (meaning shooting from a further distance, but zoomed in.) I actually think these were probably not shot with an adapter or the DOF would have been shallower.
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ITs the shallow DOF in combination with wide angel lens charachteristics.

You can see lots of the background. not just the small "zoomed in" patch that usually accompanies a long lens.
 
yea but that defeats the purpose. The architecture of a 35mm lens, the lens grouping, and spacing is what gives it that look. sure you can infinitly back away from something and get a wide angle shot of the horizon if you wanted, but the reason you use a 35 adapter is for wide angel shots with Shallow DOF. or to beable to pull focus between poinsts. plus it adds a visual texture to the footage.
 
tim, you're not helping, lol

yes, you're absolutly right, to get those shots the first thing you would normally do is go get a 35mm adapter. However, we've just spent the last 2 pages trying to convince our friend here that he doesn't NEED it to achieve the look he thinks he wants.

And again, I'm telling you that you abolutly CAN recreate those screens with the stock lens, even if it means moving the subject farther away from the background.

oh well, nevermind, get the silly adapter and whatever other superflous gadgits sounds cool. I still think you should learn what 24p means before feeling that you need XL2's or fancy adapters.
 
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