AVID vs. PREMIERE

Rick Meyer

Rick Meyer

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Hello post-production people-

I have a quick question for you AVID/Premiere users which I will repost on the Premiere thread. Can anyone who has experience with both of these programs steer me into the right direction in terms of which NLE system has a better feature set? I currently have Premiere Pro 1.5 and only find that it is marginally good. Sure I can edit on it, but after using the Interface of Final Cut Pro HD, I realize that Premiere leaves much to be desired. I don't have a MAC though. I think Premiere is a little too simple and could offer more in the way of a better interface design, better color correction and effects tools, etc. Would AVID give me these options?

Any and all advice would be greatly appreciated.
Rick
 
I personally love FCP and would suggest that, all things being equal, however, if you want to stay pc, Avid beats the sh*t out of Premiere. I have had nothing but problems with the program, so that is why I switch to Mac and FCP. One of my best friends has the Avid set-up on a pc. It is a great NLE.
 
thanks rosestar for your reply-

yes i like FCP too. I used it this entire semester at school. going from FCP back to Premiere is a little like going from a nice bed to a hammock. And I have only SEEN the interface of AVID. I have not used it. But the interface made a good impression.

Anyone else want to chime in?
 
I know a fellow who is an incredible editor and all he uses is this Ulead Media studio. He pretty much can do what ever avid/premiere/final cut can do. Like they say its not what you use its how you phucken use it!
 
thanks guys. I think I'm leaning towards Avid. Premiere is just not doing it for me anymore. I think we need to start seeing other programs.
 
"We need to start seeing other programs..." what does that mean?

I've been with Premiere since 6.0 and taught a class of PP 1.5 at St. Lawrence College this semester and have nothing but praise for it. You'll likely find that Premiere has more features that you'll ever need, they all do. At the end of the day go back to Bluespider's comments. It's not what you edit with.

Besides, at $500-1000 a pop, who can afford to jump back and forth between programs (and I hope you're using legit software... I get pissed at the people who ***** about what programs can and can't do and don't have a legit version).

Justin
www.beyondtimemedia.com
 
I've been with Premiere since 5.1 and currently am with PPro. I have nothing but praise for Premiere Pro. I have edited with many programs, and I've found that most of them are essentially the same. These days, and editor is and editor. We also use Avid Express at work, and I honestly haven't been impressed at all by it. I would rather use Premiere. It has all the features that FCP has, and if you are more comfortable with FCP, then just switch your keyboard shortcuts to FCP shortcuts. Those shortcut settings are already built into Premiere Pro. Everybody likes to ***** about Premiere, but I honestly don't know what they are complaining about. I love it. Besides, it's directly compatible with the other programs that I use, ie. Photoshop and After Effects. You really can't beat that. Peace.
 
in my experience, most people complain or spit about premiere because they havent used and arent familiar with PPRO, and last version they used was 5.0 or 6.0 and they dont realize that PPRO is a whole new ballgame. sure it has its quirks.. but the workflow is fantastic and the integration is unbeatable with the other adobe apps. peoples only real gripe about PPRO is the couple 24p bugs. but realistically its all soved by simply shooting 24pa if you want to work in a 24p project. its as simple as that.. if you want to use true 24p .. shoot 24pa. thats what its there for anyway. and you can simply output it to NTSC 29.976 when your done. theres really no reason i can personally find to use 24pn with premiere. when shooting 24pa you can have a true 24p master and then output in true 24p for DVD or output to 29.976 for other stuff. its only when you use 24pn that the problems come into play.. although im one of the few made invuenrable by the matrox rtx100 extreme pro which lets me use 24pn normally in a 29.976 timeline, but.. why? why not make a true 24p master?. anyway .. i really like the software. im hoping they move to naitive HD and dvcpro HD support for the hvx soon enough for me to be able to wait though.. otherwise it may become a secondary app for SD only for me.
 
jchenier said:
"We need to start seeing other programs..." what does that mean?

It was a joke. As in seeing other people...when things aren't working out. All right guys, I appreciate the advice. I will stick with PPro and see what it has to offer. Admittedly, I haven't rolled my sleeves up yet and gotten all that dirty with it.

Rick
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Rick, roll up your sleeves and get dirty. I was initially frustrated going from Premiere 6.0 to Pro, and ended up going right to PP1.5 and the more I play, the more I adore. So, go on, get dirty! In fact, go all the way to the elbows!

Justin
www.beyondtimemedia.com
 
the only program I know how to use is PPro 1.5... and I love it
I can work extremely fast and don't imagine myself changing NLE's anytime soon
 
I agree with iamloser, PPro is great once you really use it. One thing to do before running the program is to only load necessary programs in Windows before a serious editing session. And especially disable virus protection software. The only time I've had any issues is when this stuff was loaded. I sometimes physically disconnect from the network and boot up with minimal programs loaded using msconfig. Most often I just disable the virus protection before editing and I don't have any problem.
 
Got to start->run, type msconfig and return. Go to the Services tab and first check "Hide all Microsoft Services", then uncheck any services you don't want to load. I personally only leave a few checked, one for my Matrox extreme card and mabe one for my UPS sw. Then go to the Startup tab. I usually press Disable all and re-check a few I need running. Press ok to close the it and you'll be prompted to re-boot at which time all that stuff that was unchecked won't be running in the background. To go back to normal just run it again and select Normal startup, reboot and your done.
 
I taught a class at emerson in Boston. The school had me teach FCP but after I did I would always tell the kids that I use Premire and will always. I agree with BLUESPIDER that it is what you do with the program not the program. I've seen good work come out of I MOVIE and Windows movie Maker. If you definately want out of thye PC world I would say that FCP is better than AVID but they both are clitchy and fussy when they want to be.
 
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