Avid Media Composer 5 vs Premiere Pro CS5 for AVCHD. (EDIUS Neo 2?)

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cbezeike

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Does anybody have practical experience with both and which one works best with AVCHD.
What about that EDIUS Neo 2 Software that comes packaged with the cam - is it any good?
I've finally decided to buy this cam so I'm kinda late to the game. Price is good...
 
I see.
From my experience in MC 5 transcoding gives you the best quality but it's no different that capturing tape in terms of time. It might even be longer.
Alas, one of the fallacies of the supposed 'save capturing time' tapless age.
 
PerroneFord said:
No, one of the issues in using consumer formats in a professional editing product.
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Well I don't know what's considered consumer format or pro format but case in point you have to transcode footage from 5D & 7D in MC5 in order to edit effectively. The same in FCP as well. These a supposedly pro cams. This AVCHD is being heavily touted as better than HDV. Everybody making claims.

Anyway what's considered as a professional format? I'd like to look into those.
 
cbezeike said:
Well I don't know what's considered consumer format or pro format but case in point you have to transcode footage from 5D & 7D in MC5 in order to edit effectively. The same in FCP as well. These a supposedly pro cams. This AVCHD is being heavily touted as better than HDV. Everybody making claims.

Anyway what's considered as a professional format? I'd like to look into those.
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They are professional STILL cameras. Not pro video cameras by any stretch of the imagination, and I've never heard anyone refer to them as such. Yes, AVCHD is better than HDV. HDV was THE consumer HD format. AVCHD is meant to replace it in the consumer space.

Professional HD (or above) formats include:

DVCProHD
AVC-Intra
XDCam
XDCamEX
REDRaw
ARRIRAW
Panalog
Cineform RAW
Uncompressed
DHxHD
ProRes
Cineform

There are others, but this should get your started.
 
Transcoding is definitely make for a more enjoyable editing experience on lower end systems. Performance is pretty snappy in Avid MC5 even on my 3 year old system. The footage will hold up better with color correction over a few generations of renders. Plus it is much more compatible and industry accepted if you have to collaborate with other professionals for your project. The downside is it does take up substantially more space, but then again harddrives are relatively cheap nowadays.

That said, on a newer system (I7-920+, 12+ GB ram, GTX480+), editing native AVCHD clips in Premiere CS 5 is much much snappier. It's nice to just dump the footage and start cutting right away.

I edit natively whenever possible, but that's just me. There's pros and cons to each.
 
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