Audio trick for lavs

AlexDarke

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Trying to record audio with wireless lavs can be a blessing in some instances, but also a huge pain in the rear in others.

This is an interesting trick that can help sometimes.

 
I wonder, from all the TV/film people... how many % would "suck" (is this going to become a pwoo pwoo ? :-p) in audio ?

It's quite a lot I think....

And if you would give a camera to the same people a SD 442 with a 744 or 788 or even cantar.... what would they "struggle" most with ?
 
Why do videos offering advice on audio have such poor audio themselves? Why would you want to take advice from someone who doesn't even care enough to do decent audio on a clip purporting to be expert advice on audio?
 
Why do videos offering advice on audio have such poor audio themselves? Why would you want to take advice from someone who doesn't even care enough to do decent audio on a clip purporting to be expert advice on audio?

We are hardly claiming to be experts on audio (in fact he says that he gets stuck doing audio and sucks at it within the first minute). It's just a tip on something we have done on small projects ourselves - such as short web videos where we are just running and gunning and don't have a crew of people (including sound people). And something we thought the YouTube community of videomakers would enjoy since it's something that has helped us out in the past for random videos. We certainly aren't claiming that this is a technique pro audio people use or should use.

Perhaps this was an inappropriate place to post this.
 
in this world you'll never be in a "From now on I know it all" kinda situation... So it's always good to learn... even those with 408408486486867676048608678668867668666 centuries of experience can still learn.
 
I wonder, from all the TV/film people... how many % would "suck" (is this going to become a pwoo pwoo ? :-p) in audio ?

It's quite a lot I think....

And if you would give a camera to the same people a SD 442 with a 744 or 788 or even cantar.... what would they "struggle" most with ?

Yeah I think it would be a big percent. Production and post-production sound are the most mysterious aspects of filmmaking to me, and it seems to be the most difficult to find information about. Or maybe it's just difficult for me to grasp the information that is out there because it is very technical.

I'd love to learn more though.
 
It would have been an order of magnitude more helpful (and credible) to actually demonstrate the technique while shooting the video. In fact a before and after comparison wouldn't have taken 5 minutes more to shoot and edit, and no more time in the finished video. Just sayin'.
 
It would have been an order of magnitude more helpful (and credible) to actually demonstrate the technique while shooting the video. In fact a before and after comparison wouldn't have taken 5 minutes more to shoot and edit, and no more time in the finished video. Just sayin'.

I appreciate your constructive input. Perhaps we will shoot a follow-up video and do just that.
 
And again, I'd like to stress that our main audience so far with these videos (this being only our 4th video) is 12-16 year old kids making videos in their back yard with their friends.

If we ever move into a demographic of professionals, I would gladly and most certainly bring on a seasoned pro to discuss sound related topics - and pretty much every other topic, since we are 25 and only have our small number of years of experience to draw from.

Although, after participating in forums for many years I would be surprised to post anything that doesn't attract a decent amount of griping about something.
 
Yeah I think it would be a big percent. Production and post-production sound are the most mysterious aspects of filmmaking to me, and it seems to be the most difficult to find information about. Or maybe it's just difficult for me to grasp the information that is out there because it is very technical.

I'd love to learn more though.

I notice that, when I show up with terms like Foley (Noiz will be happy.....) ADR, roomtone,.... Some have the "huuu ??????????" reaction...
 
I notice that, when I show up with terms like Foley (Noiz will be happy.....) ADR, roomtone,.... Some have the "huuu ??????????" reaction...

That doesn't surprise me one bit. The only reason I knew what foley was when I was younger was because I went on the studio tour at the Universal Studios theme park...and the way I heard about ADR was from watching a behind the scenes featurette on a DVD...
 
Quiz

Quiz

small quiz

What are:

wild lines
wild sounds

ha !!

The way I've understood it is that you record lines or sound without shooting film orvideo for the sole purpose of capturing the best audio possible in hopes that you will be able to use some of it to loop over the takes you shot on video or film.

Is that right?
 
I found it to be an interesting technique that warrants keeping a few squares of foam in the audio bag. You could have just posted a sentence or two, but the video amused me for at least a few minutes earlier today. All things considered, Thanks for posting.
 
That doesn't surprise me one bit. The only reason I knew what foley was when I was younger was because I went on the studio tour at the Universal Studios theme park...and the way I heard about ADR was from watching a behind the scenes featurette on a DVD...

You don't know about foley. That is a joke at your expense. Please don't take any offense.

Grant
 
Good grief, OK I'll be the bad guy here.... It's Foley not foley.

And I tend to agree with Richard, why do an audio how to using horrible audio technique?

All the Best!

Dave
 
The way I've understood it is that you record lines or sound without shooting film orvideo for the sole purpose of capturing the best audio possible in hopes that you will be able to use some of it to loop over the takes you shot on video or film.

Is that right?

Well yes, it's recording sound without video. You know it I think :-p

Wild lines = re-recording dialogues on set without image
wild sounds = re-recording SFX or ambiences on set without image. For example footsteps, a door opening and closing,... if you're in the woods and you hear some cool birds...
 
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