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long_woods

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On commercials you see the black bar on the top and bottom with text, how can I get the bars on the top and bottom with out it cutting into my footage, I just want it to squeeze the footage into another aspect ratio.
 
why would you want to have squeezed/distorted footage instead of cropping it to the proper aspect... that's like stretching 4:3 on an HD tv (ugly and just wrong).
 
Ok but can you please give us a lot more detail than just "720p" like camera used, codec, sequence settings, intended delivery format, etc. This is not a police interrogation- we're trying to help you.:nads: Pretend like we can't see your computer from where we're sitting.

Noah
 
NoahK said:
Ok- can you please give us a lot more detail than just "720p" like camera used, codec, sequence settings, etc. This is not a police interrogation- we're trying to help you. Pretend like we can't see your computer from where we're sitting.

Noah
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HVX200 -- 720, 24p
 
Ok and to what delivery format? (Still waiting for proper details. If you can't be bothered to type a couple of sentences of details you're not going to get much help...)

Noah
 
NoahK said:
Ok and to what delivery format? (Still waiting for proper details. If you can't be bothered to type a couple of sentences of details you're not going to get much help...)

Noah
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I apologize I'm in the middle of editing a doc up right now.

I honestly am not sure the delivery format, usually I export everything I do out in a h264 quicktime file, I assumed thats what I should do as I've been told to do that.
 
Let us know when you know. It would be impossible to recommend output settings without knowing what format, resolution, codec, etc you were planning to use.

Noah
 
Okay, I think we're talking about two different things here....

I am asking you how I can put a bar above and below the footage, I'm going to layer text in the bars that are above the footage and below the footage...Do you understand what I am talking about.
 
View this page it will tell you everything you need to know about aspect ratios:

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/articles/anamorphic/anamorphic185demo.html

I realize you want some help- but please do your part and give details when asked for them. And if you're too busy to do even that, please don't waste the forum's time with 1 word responses that give zero detail. How am I supposed to give you for example a sequence setting and frame resolution to achieve 4:3 letterbox- which is what sounds like you want- without knowing your intended final format, frame size, etc? How is anyone supposed to "understand what you're talking about" if you're not saying anything?

For example you could say something like:

Sure Noah. I started with footage from an HVX200 digitized into DVCPROHD in a 720p HD 23.98 timeline. What I'd really like to have is an NTSC 24p final video in H.264. What I want to know is- can I make that into something with black bars on top and bottom?
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To which I'd reply:

Of course that's no problem. Take the 720p sequence you've editing and drop it into a new NTSC 720x480 4:3 sequence (make sure the anamorphic box is not checked). That will automatically rescale the 720p DVCPROHD footage into a letterboxed scaled down version in an NTSC 4:3 frame. From there you can use FCP Text generators and put them into the letter box areas. Then when you're done, use File>Export QuickTime Conversion> and pick H.264 as your export codec.
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OR you could have said:

Noah, what I'd like to do is keep the footage at 720p but have letterboxing above and below the frame that I could put titles into. Is that possible?
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To which I'd reply:

I wouldn't recommend doing this for broadcast but for web it would be ok. Basically you'd just increase the vertical size of the sequence a bit to make an area appear beyond the frame boundary. Your 720p footage is essentially 1280x720 (well technically 960x720) but that's another story. So increase the vertical resolution say to 1280x1000. That would give you some extra black areas at the top and bottom of the frame. Then you could drop in FCP text generator titles to fill those black areas. When you're done, export to QuickTime Conversion with the H.264 codec.

For broadcast 720p you're kinda out of luck because it has to stay 1280x720 in order to be a proper broadcast signal. So you'd either scale the clips down say 80% which would give you black bars at the top and bottom but unfortunately also at the sides- which looks weird. Or you could add a widescreen filter which would crop the shots off at the top and bottom, essentially covering up parts of your frame. A third option would be to scale and then use the aspect ratio slider in the motion tab to widen the footage out to fill the sides again. But this will look really weird. In short- do this only if it's a QuickTime for your desktop/web.
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There, was that so hard? :happy:

Noah
 
I'm just trying to figure out how to do the commercials with the bar on the top and bottom if I can't do it in 720p can I do it in 1080i?

I need to layer text on the top and the bottom
 
You're kidding right??? Please read my lengthy post and change 720 for 1080.... And do not post another single sentence question in this thread or it will be closed. You want help- ask like a human being. Good night.

Noah
 
NoahK said:
You're kidding right??? Please read my lengthy post and change 720 for 1080.... And do not post another single sentence question in this thread or it will be closed. You want help- ask like a human being. Good night.

Noah
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Wow,
I spent nearly two hours last night looking on youtube for a example of a commercial that I can show you the two black bars both on the top and the bottom, which when they have the black bar on the top and bottom they have applied the text in both areas.

You told me I couldn't do it with 720, or matter fact I can with 720 but it would look weird. I haven't looked at the post in a few days so don't quote me word for word.

I'm a visual learner, I learn better when I see it appose to being told; ' this is how you do it, etc '

I apologize for the one sentence, but the fact is this! I'm not sure what else to really ask, I could talk, and talk, and talk but none of it would be relevant to what I am asking you. So that is why I am being very forward about the questions.

Sorry in advance, I won't bother asking a question again.
 
NVM, don't reply I'm going to try it out to see how I like it for my self. I was aiming to use this for broadcast, my question is Noah is this.

How does the editors do it for broadcast that I see all the time, if its not suppose to be done, how do I see it all the time.
 
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