ART HISTORY - repost with images in document

nickybee

nickybee

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I've been told that nobody can find the images on the website...I hope this is incorrect - but just in case...

here's a sample

stelly.jpg


checkwatch.jpg


friends_freaking.jpg


theygetaway2.jpg


for more - and comments go to

Art History web site

and click on PLAY - then look at the bottom of the page

nick
 
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can you please tell me what editor you used and what setting you used to get the yellow fx. I really dig the half blue half yellow look and it might be nice to see video if you have any.

For the car shot, It looks like you green-screened, because the back of his hair is missing, and I can see a tree with leaves lighted up behind his neck where normally the headrest of the car seat is. It looks fine, but why didn't you just film him in a real car, is there some special fx that happens?
 
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I'm pretty sure that's part of the out-of-focus car door blocking the very back of his head and the white leaves are a design on some sort of seat cover...

I could be wrong but that's what it looks like to me. And I believe they used filters on this shoot, but I can't guarantee they did on these shots.

And about the images - I think they look amazing considering no post work has been done on them yet. I checked out the film's web-site and its very informative and well put together, not to mention pretty heartening for someone who plans to use the DVX much the same way they have done.

- Eric
 
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Eric, thanks for the car clarification. Now that I look at it that would make sense. Who-ever lit and shot the actor in the car should get a medal because that is one incredible frame.

For the filters, are you sure nothing was done in post? In my experiences if you yellow filter a bright scene like the jail shot above then it makes the highs blow out.

Not to be offensive, but I dont believe that these images are uncorrected and untouched, as good as this camera is I cant see these images coming straight out of them.
 
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[quote author=aaronkid link=board=Clips;num=1062660803;start=0#3 date=09/05/03 at 08:46:26]
Not to be offensive, but I dont believe that these images are uncorrected and untouched, as good as this camera  is I cant see these images coming straight out of them.[/quote]

Goto the web page and look at the crew list. The "dream team" on this production ( including the guy that runs this forum) and then ask that question again. The 100,000 dollars worth of equipment they had does not hurt either.
 
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Trust me, these images are straight out of the camera. That is what happens when you have a Professional DP and a Director that understands the camera.  The car is a natural shot, And believe it or not the only lights in the scene are 2 baby kinos on the dash and on the visor of the car. :)
 
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I stand corrected! I had no idea this was such a professional shoot.

So I gather the filter(s?) used is a secret, can any of you pros take an educated guess what they used? I would love to be able to shoot like that in camera. Or, actually, is it better to do the coloring like this in post?
 
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I'm very used to seeing faces (photo #1) lighted with a key light to one side, I see this is not done here, and did you plan to do this because when you are using yellow filters it makes key light look funny? It is a wonderful image, it just looks a little flat.

P.S is that the actress that played Lola?
 
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Well Zoomforce already said it but yes - all these shots are straight from the camera no post.

the filter combinations are yellow, chocolate and varying degrees of ultra contrast filters - at some point if people are interested I'll get the DP to write down the exact ones that were used in each shot.

for a direct comparison of filter vs. treatment in post look at

http://www.stealart.com/test_title.wmv

the first second or so is straight from a clip shot with filter package and then the wider stuff (with the 2 camera rig) was treated with yellow in post.

note this example was NOT done carefully as far as color correction was concerned - it was intended as a proof of concept for the title sequence rather than anything else.

That is not the actress that played Lola (Lola was played by Franka Potente) - the actress is Dominika Wolski - a rising star in Canada.

As to the reasons for shooting that way - well the looks the DP developed for the various locations were really strong - and having decided to go with different looks for each we made a commitment to shooting with color filters in camera.

General consensus is that this is unwise unless you are sure of the look you want because you can't push the colours around as much in post.

Time will tell if we made the right choice - I believe we did.

The lighting in the car shot was as Jarred said - at that point we had no power at the location (since we had just been kicked out of it) so we shot a pickup shot in the alley for later use - yes that is a hawaiian seat cover in the car - and yes that is an out of focus door frame. (the actual video clip wipes with the door frame ever so slightly and that car in the distance drives through as the actor checks his watch)

The lighting in the gym was 100% natural lighting - you can see the massive windows in the back - at that time of day the light was hitting the windows (with blinds) almost directly creating a massive diffuse light source. (kudos to our dp for finding this location)
So it was almost point and shoot - as they say - Location, Location, Location.

The reverse onto Stella (Dominika Wolski) - the first shot included in this thread - shows what is actually a mirror behind her (reflecting the rest of the gym).

Hope that was of interest.
If you haven't checked out the other clips on the site - go get em - I didn't want to post everything inlined cause it would make the page really long.

nick
 
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The car door blur is actually a telephone post in the foreground right in front of the camera :); The camera was on an overkeeper and panned across. I can kinda see how the flowers look like they are in the background though, its kinda a lighting illusion I figure.

As for the yellows over exposing, you are right, it looks really hot when you use a yellow in daylight on bright spots, but during our camera tech tests and playing around with the filters, a guy from Clairmont clued us into the ultra contrast filters, which helped cut down the over-exposed highlights and put some detail back into them. I think we ended up using a +3 and a +5 ultra con for a total +8 in some of the shots. Its a really cool filter.

I am wondering how well the screw-on ultra cons work, we used 6x6 filters, which i found out (after being warned when i was spinning the filters around like a moron)that they cost 600 bucks each.
 
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The washed out blacks that others have pointed out can perhaps be chalked up to the ultra-con filters. They can really save you sometimes in video, but they have a way of evening out contrast too much and resulting in a muddier, less distinct picture. Just a guess, but to my taste I don't think that the blacks are so bad as to make fixing them in post very hard at all.

Muy muy props to acheiving look on set in camera rather than in post, by the way. Too few people do that these days, and I think you've done an excellent job showing why it should be done. No post-tinkering would have yielded those results. Well done indeed.

Will
 
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thanks for the praise - trailer to come soon (We just screened a rough cut of trailer at wrap party and I will post that on the web site).
the DP (while lurking on this forum) appreciates the praise (as do I of course).

I think fixing in post will be pretty easy...

more news as I have it - but this is shaping up to be some kickass stuff...

nick
 
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