ARGH! Damn DP!

Aviv

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Sorry, but I need to rant!

I'm a first year film production student, in a recent project we've had to film a two minute, three person dialogue. We were randomly assigned a crew, I was director. After the sleepless nights of stressing over organizing, and having to get a third actor at the very last minute, the shoot went decently aside from the fact that my DP is from the Congo and barely speaks English, let alone knows what's potting.

So we have the movie on DV and I go into the edit suite today with the editor (who too doesn't really have any idea of what's going on)...Each editor is assigned 22 hours in the suite, so we have to follow a schedule. Imagine my shock when I get there, help him hook up the Panasonic DVCPRO decks and pop in the tape to discover that the DP shot the whole thing on LP, which can't be read by the deck!!!! :crybaby:

My AD asked him twice to check the white balance and also make sure he was shooting on SP.

So, because of such a stringent timetable there's no chance of a reshoot or rebooking the suite. This means I'm taking the tape home, capturing through my VX2100 (which will result in less quality than the SDI we get from the decks into the Black Magic capture cards) editing on my own, and slapping someone' else's name under the Editor credit.

:furious3:

Plus I still have to write an essay on Film Noir for Monday....*sigh*
 
Film school is wack -- thats the big secret. The trick is this... ignore what the school tells you in terms of policy and make the biggest best movies you can possibly imagine. Why? Because at the end of the day you eat the turd sandwhich, not them.

The good part about all this is I bet in the future -- you A. wont be working with that fool, and B. you will have more control and confidence over what is required by your staff, and C. about a hundred other things you did this time that you won't do again.

Best of luck my man... I spent my time in film school cursing at professors and end running the system -- but I made some pretty cool films and grew some thick skin to boot!!

Dean

And for your film Noir Essay just mention Nicholas Ray a bunch of times!!!
 
Spike Lee told my Camerawork lecturer that the best thing about film school is being able to make movies for free...Everything else you can learn on your own, from text books and experience, without having to go through hours of lectures.

I'm planning on going into editing. I HATE directing and DPing even more...For me it's either editing, or filmmaking as a whole (write, direct, shoot, edit).
 
Aviv said:
Spike Lee told my Camerawork lecturer that the best thing about film school is being able to make movies for free...

Yeah, school is really free. Think about how free it is when it comes time to pay your student loans back. You'll have to work two jobs just to live. Yeah, free filmmaking... that's about like a free lunch. There's no such thing.
 
Aviv said:
This means I'm taking the tape home, capturing through my VX2100 (which will result in less quality than the SDI we get from the decks into the Black Magic capture cards)

How? A digital copy of excatly what is on the tape will be of lesser quality?

Or are you not doing a firewire capture?
 
At school we don't do a firewire capture, the video is captured with component cables and the uprezzed by the black magic cards...Apparentely...According to our old editing lecturer who wasn't very clear.
 
My transcripts weren't good enough to get into filmschool.:banned:
Oh well, from what I've heard I'm glad I didn't go. :happy:
 
About it not really being free...I consider 30.000 Rand (about $5000 a year) to work on hours worth of film and have access to industry standard equipment, to be pretty close to free.
 
Just to piss you off a bit more, my Film school cost 1700 a year, and they paid for everything, stock processing, mix. We were lucky bastards. Ah film school. Good, good times. And we only shot 16mm, we had a few arri SRs, and others. Great gear, you just had to get off your ass, and you could do some very cool things.
 
Well you won't be capturing less quality, you just won't be working in an uncompressed workspace. You'll take a hit with rendering more than one generation but it shouldn't be the end of the world. Besides, it's DV, how good can it look? :)

Anyway, lesson learned for the next time you work with a DP who speaks very little english. Just gotta have a checklist for the little shi* that can go wrong and bite you in the buttocks.
 
I'm watching the footage on my PC now...WOW the lighting is terrible....I don't actually want my name attached to it at all :p

Our school also handles all processing and telecine, we have 16mm bolexes and 35mm ARRIs, HVX200s and DV-15s which we're using now.
 
Prairieboy said:
Just to piss you off a bit more, my Film school cost 1700 a year, and they paid for everything, stock processing, mix. We were lucky bastards. Ah film school. Good, good times. And we only shot 16mm, we had a few arri SRs, and others. Great gear, you just had to get off your ass, and you could do some very cool things.

Wow. Now THATS a sweet gig.
 
Aviv said:
I'm watching the footage on my PC now...WOW the lighting is terrible....I don't actually want my name attached to it at all :p

Our school also handles all processing and telecine, we have 16mm bolexes and 35mm ARRIs, HVX200s and DV-15s which we're using now.

another case of no matter how sweet the equipment is...
 
I think your getting your moneys worth. This was a valuable lesson on working with an unknown crew. I’m not saying you should micromanage, . . ah hell that’s exactly what I’m saying, until you know that the people on your crew are competent you have to watch them like a hawk. On a real gig you can’t blame anything on anyone else. A successful film has many fathers; an unsuccessful film only has one, the director.
 
Yeah, school is really free. Think about how free it is when it comes time to pay your student loans back. You'll have to work two jobs just to live. Yeah, free filmmaking... that's about like a free lunch. There's no such thing

This may be the quote of the month. So true.

Nothing's free in Waterworld.

-
 
For your enjoyment, here's what I managed to salvage...Can't say I'm proud of it at all. It's not what's going to be marked though, the actual group editor is going to have to do that, and I can see it coming out a LOT worse than this.
The credit at the end is a bit of a joke :p I had to get my friends, Rees, to act at very short notice but I promised I'd make him a star...At least I tried :p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uy4q-2hPwLA
 
love that big shadow of the "lurking figure" to the left of the frame - adds a lot of tension to the scene - :Drogar-BigGrin(DBG)
 
one camera only? :O ?

the lighting and the sound are OK :D
you had a lot of work with the script :D:D especially with the [****] word

but hey! it is a good start! now you know where you can make mistakes, and the others do not! you will never make these again!
you have learned a lot! and where to learn if not in the school?
 
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