Are you a "soon to be former" Final Cut Pro User ???
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Stephen Mick
Totally Usable
Not switching, per se. But certainly taking the time to learn Premiere. The good thing is…soon I'll know FCP, Premiere and Avid MC5. Knowledge is power. 
David G. Smith
Steak Knife Member
We'll have to see. I got the FCS3 upgrade a little over a year ago, so I am not looking to upgrade right just yet. I may go ahead and get the Adobe Creative Suite and start to learn it as well. I don't know about Avid though... maybe. So chalk me up as an undecided at this point vote.
Chip
I'm thinking about it is there any difference in the PC version as opposed to the Mac version ? Which is more stable ?
Thanks Rob.
Rob,
I don't have any experience with the Mac version but have no problems with the PC version running on my i7. It would even run nicer if I get my NVIDIA card upgraded to the level where the CUDA functions for it.
I will say this much, the SWITCH deal Adobe is offering is one helluva deal as it's cheaper than my cost to upgrade my CS3. So take the suite if you are going to, then you will have a chance to see how everything is integrated.
I don't have any experience with the Mac version but have no problems with the PC version running on my i7. It would even run nicer if I get my NVIDIA card upgraded to the level where the CUDA functions for it.
I will say this much, the SWITCH deal Adobe is offering is one helluva deal as it's cheaper than my cost to upgrade my CS3. So take the suite if you are going to, then you will have a chance to see how everything is integrated.
snowleopard
Well-known member
I own CS5, but never used Premier. But I'm about to start learning it at least...
BryantStanton
Well-known member
Rob,
The biggest difference I've heard is that CS5.5 is supposed to run up to 10% faster on PC (I'll try to track down a source for this, but I've seen this mentioned more than once) compared to Mac. I've used it on both platforms and experienced quick and stable editing environments except for the occasional and (more or less) expected hiccups.
The biggest difference I've heard is that CS5.5 is supposed to run up to 10% faster on PC (I'll try to track down a source for this, but I've seen this mentioned more than once) compared to Mac. I've used it on both platforms and experienced quick and stable editing environments except for the occasional and (more or less) expected hiccups.
MC5 and 5.5 are a lot more friendly for FCP and PPro users as they have added a lot more drag and drop like stuff. Pretty stable on a PC. Like all NLE's though, it has some quirks. Also, still waiting for native AVCHD editing. The CC tools are amazing. Pretty much the same now as their highest end product.
Another NLE I use a lot is Edius, which can be run via bootcamp (or dual boot windows) on a mac.
I find PPro to be quite interesting but a tad "clunky" for my tastes. If you really understand the adobe paradigm (not far off from fcp's) you should pick it up quickly. If you are already fluent in AE then it should be no problem at all.
With the talk that Apple might be dropping the Pro line of hardware, I wonder (if that does happen) if they will finally release the Mac OS for general PC's and try to compete OS to OS instead of all in one hardware/OS? There have been hacks of OSX out on some netbooks, though lacking certain drivers for several years now. Anyway, I digress.
Another NLE I use a lot is Edius, which can be run via bootcamp (or dual boot windows) on a mac.
I find PPro to be quite interesting but a tad "clunky" for my tastes. If you really understand the adobe paradigm (not far off from fcp's) you should pick it up quickly. If you are already fluent in AE then it should be no problem at all.
With the talk that Apple might be dropping the Pro line of hardware, I wonder (if that does happen) if they will finally release the Mac OS for general PC's and try to compete OS to OS instead of all in one hardware/OS? There have been hacks of OSX out on some netbooks, though lacking certain drivers for several years now. Anyway, I digress.
snowleopard
Well-known member
I don't see that happening Denwa. Apple is a hardware company, first and foremost. They are now actually bigger than Microsoft as well, just doing what they are doing.
TubEfingers
Well-known member
I've installed CS 5.5 and tested PPro since the FCPX release, I've found it has a fairly similar interface to FCP7 and its a nice touch that you can map FCP7 shortcuts,
I'm not planning on switching just yet, I'm happy with FCS3 for time being,
I have FCPX on another boot drive, only spent half hour or so with it so far, I am surprised by how far away they've moved from FCP7 but I'm willing to give it a test run
I'm not planning on switching just yet, I'm happy with FCS3 for time being,
I have FCPX on another boot drive, only spent half hour or so with it so far, I am surprised by how far away they've moved from FCP7 but I'm willing to give it a test run
I guess MS should have held onto those 18.2 million Apple shares they sold off in 2003 (after bailing out Apple in 1997).
I know they are a hardware company, but it seems like they want to sell mobile hardware only and a mac pro desktop is not "mobile", thus all the talk of apple dropping mac pro. Only time will tell.
Personally I think Steve Jobs has a "F@#k em, they'll be back" approach and looks at overall numbers not small numbers of individuals that may or may not be back. Some say this is just smart business and is all about $$. The thing is, many big companies market "pro" products that are worth a small number of there business because doing so instills excitement over all there other products. (Pro racing, etc come to mind).
Steve seems to have an ego the size of Jupiter and thinks they can never fail.
I know they are a hardware company, but it seems like they want to sell mobile hardware only and a mac pro desktop is not "mobile", thus all the talk of apple dropping mac pro. Only time will tell.
Personally I think Steve Jobs has a "F@#k em, they'll be back" approach and looks at overall numbers not small numbers of individuals that may or may not be back. Some say this is just smart business and is all about $$. The thing is, many big companies market "pro" products that are worth a small number of there business because doing so instills excitement over all there other products. (Pro racing, etc come to mind).
Steve seems to have an ego the size of Jupiter and thinks they can never fail.
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I am not switching. FCP7 works fine and I could sit on a Steenbeck anytime and feel comfortable, meaning I dont need the newest fastest tool to do the work. If apple continues to move to the consumer level full tilt, I might even abandon apple one day. I already avoid i-Products as much as possible
I removed iTunes but I do use iCal, I dont have iphone-ipad-ipod-and I still use an old PT mix +++ with OS9 if I want.
I removed iTunes but I do use iCal, I dont have iphone-ipad-ipod-and I still use an old PT mix +++ with OS9 if I want.
Matt Gottshalk
Resident Preditor
I am definitely am considering it.
I couldn't agree with you more.
crazyhendrix
Member
Considering too. Probably holding out till end of the year to see how FCPX develops.
j1clark@ucsd.edu
Veteran
I am not switching. FCP7 works fine and I could sit on a Steenbeck anytime and feel comfortable, meaning I dont need the newest fastest tool to do the work. If apple continues to move to the consumer level full tilt, I might even abandon apple one day. I already avoid i-Products as much as possible
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The massive changes in Final Cut X made me more interested in CS5. I always thought Premiere was still so behind but kept hearing about the no transcoding footage thing so I am giving it a good try this week and weekend cutting together family July 4th weekend video to learn. So far it's just another tool in the toolbox but I am liking what it has to offer.
I would use it in addition to the other programs to keep sharp in as many programs as I can.
Personally I am relieved Final Cut x sucks right now. It makes me feel for once I can stop chasing the latest version and just create with what I have.
BTW I own Avid, Final Cut and CS5 software. I personally am not crazy about Final Cut X.
LASTLY - I am totally with user timbook2. I have seen many years in the past working in the film industry people using back in the day Stienbecks and KEM's. Those things were around since the very early days and were used up until the early 90's by most, so it's all just about great tools that get the job done.
Obviously Citizen Kane wasn't cut on Final Cut X or Avid or Premiere but it was just about the idea and execution of the art in the end. Sometimes our new toys now adays cloud that... in my opinion. I'm speaking for myself of course.
I would use it in addition to the other programs to keep sharp in as many programs as I can.
Personally I am relieved Final Cut x sucks right now. It makes me feel for once I can stop chasing the latest version and just create with what I have.
BTW I own Avid, Final Cut and CS5 software. I personally am not crazy about Final Cut X.
LASTLY - I am totally with user timbook2. I have seen many years in the past working in the film industry people using back in the day Stienbecks and KEM's. Those things were around since the very early days and were used up until the early 90's by most, so it's all just about great tools that get the job done.
Obviously Citizen Kane wasn't cut on Final Cut X or Avid or Premiere but it was just about the idea and execution of the art in the end. Sometimes our new toys now adays cloud that... in my opinion. I'm speaking for myself of course.