Apple dumps Intel and shows Final Cut Pro on new Mac with Apple CPU !

I have used a great many editing systems, beginning with a Steenbeck, the first non linear edit system. Ran my way through all the linear years, the offline years, the early avid year and media 100 years and the first home built premiere years.
All of this to say, what may be intuitive to you may not be to someone else. I have both FCPX and DaVinci-Resolve Studio. Just finished a 3 month project with Resolve Studio and it was rock solid, super flexible all the way through the media management to delivery process. I prefer it over FCPX, I don't like the FCPX interface, and have not found it intuitive. And despite my many years of using Apple computers, if it meant moving to another platform to continue with DaVinci Resolve, I would. However I am looking forward to the new generation of processors and apple computers since travel is a big part of my work life and I would like a robust laptop to work with on the road. If this Covid pandemic ever ends!
Just my two cents...
 
The end of that video had a COVID precautions credits (everything they did to be safe)...never seen that before.
 
Yeah, ok, this looks pretty good. I thought I might want to stick Intel when they transition, but maybe not. By the time they update the 16” Pro we may see universal versions of resolve and Adobe and MS office in place, and I’m sure many other developers will follow suit. And with a power differential like that, perhaps even running emulated will still be a power boost.

Really looking forward to seeing what they have up their sleeves for the 16” MBP and iMacs... 16 cores, more TDP, discreet graphics, etc?

Between Apple ARM based silicone and AMD, it’s not a great season for Intel. I’m sure they’ll be back with a vengeance at some point, but I’m also sure they’re all hands on deck... we haven’t seen this sort of performance leap on desktop CPUs for a very, very long time.
 
8-core, 16GB, 512GB stock and $1,573.98 with NY tax. (You can check Apple's site and configure your own to see the price based on where you live.)

But I might switch to the MBP:

8-core, 16GB, 256GB stock and $1,628.29 with NY tax.

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I'll see.

And I know that I can have a much better computer for a bit more, but I'm a MB fanatic as it's how I live life (work, travel, chill), so it's really made for someone like me.
 
NorBro said:
8-core, 16GB, 512GB stock and $1,573.98 with NY tax. (You can check Apple's site and configure your own to see the price based on where you live.)

But I might switch to the MBP:

8-core, 16GB, 256GB stock and $1,628.29 with NY tax.

___

I'll see.

And I know that I can have a much better computer for a bit more, but I'm a MB fanatic as it's how I live life (work, travel, chill), so it's really made for someone like me.
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I'm thinking about one of those for running ColourLab, because this is much less overpriced than the 16" model. And if the GPU is any good, it might be enough for ColourLab and maybe light DIT work. It will be interesting to find out how well Resolve and ColourLab and hopefully eventually Scratch run on these.
 
I don't have much GAS anymore, but I have a weakness for superiority (even with a little hype involved, ha).

Apple laptops, Nintendo Switch Lite, a pleasant pair of running shoes; these are investments I feel GREAT about.

Japanese cameras...there's a lot of resentment that's been brewed over the years.
 
I’m the most curious to see what they do once software support is mature and they drop some high octane Apple silicone in there.

Desktop Mac Pro/iMac Pro with Apple silicone... 64 cores, 5ghz? Im wondering what this silicone can do with plenty of space and cooling and if pushed to the TDP most desktop chips run at today. If Apple has exclusivity on a workstation 5x faster than what is available on the PC side, it could finally be their true re-entrance into dominating the pro market.
 
Some further early speculation here - like always, these chips looked engineered to balance TDP and thus thermals and battery drain carefully with performance. But why this specific point?

- Nearly double battery life of Intel and specifically 17-20 hours. This is a key selling point, as 17-20 hour range can easily be considered "all day battery life" and 2x battery is a very compelling number for most users of air/13" MBP who primarily value battery over raw power.

- 2.8x Performance. Besides sounding very impressive for best case scenarios on universal apps, I also suspect there's a bit more intent here. When we get benchmarks, I'll bet Apple selected this power curve so that emulated rosetta 2 apps perform roughly on par with native Intel chips. This will read well in reviews. Up to ~3x as fast for universal apps and everyday tasks, with no real performance loss vs intel when running non-native, emulated intel apps. Sounds a lot better than "up to ~2x performance, but slower on non-optimized".

Real point with this is, Apple selected this point on a power curve with a heavy concern on thermals and battery life. Piggybacking from my last point, when battery life or very tight thermals go out the window (i.e. the thermal constraints on the mac mini's tiny footprint), I very much looked forward to seeing what a higher powered chip (as well as an ARM discreet graphics solution) can do. What happens when Apple selects a point on the power curve focused not on balance of TDP, but on raw power?

I wonder if, say, the 16" Macbook Pro will have a more variable battery life - allowing it to turbo upwards (or for use when plugged in) and turn it into a true mobile workhorse. The power curve begins to plateau from their graphs, so it remains to be seen how well the architecuture will scale, but is it possible an ARM 16" Macbook Pro with native Resolve/Premiere apps will perform equal to many decked out, workstation class desktop computers? It would be game changing to sit on a plane, plugged in to power, and be running a 64gb 16" Macbook Pro with an 8TB internal NVME drive and USB 4.0 external 8TB SSD running performance similar to a 16-Core Desktop on a 1000w PSU attached to a 10gb QNAP.
 
filmguy123 said:
I’m the most curious to see what they do once software support is mature and they drop some high octane Apple silicone in there.
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Probably not a whole lot, as Apple isn't in the business of making breast implants...

Desktop Mac Pro/iMac Pro with Apple silicone... 64 cores, 5ghz? Im wondering what this silicone can do with plenty of space and cooling and if pushed to the TDP most desktop chips run at today. If Apple has exclusivity on a workstation 5x faster than what is available on the PC side, it could finally be their true re-entrance into dominating the pro market.
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That's probably quite a stretch. The odds of Apple exceeding Zen in performance are at best average, and in order to get there a lot of the power consumption advantages will evaporate, since in the real world there's no way to get something for nothing. More computer power requires more power.

5x? That's very unlikely.
 
filmguy123 said:
I’m the most curious to see what they do once software support is mature and they drop some high octane Apple silicone in there.

Desktop Mac Pro/iMac Pro with Apple silicone... 64 cores, 5ghz? Im wondering what this silicone can do with plenty of space and cooling and if pushed to the TDP most desktop chips run at today. If Apple has exclusivity on a workstation 5x faster than what is available on the PC side, it could finally be their true re-entrance into dominating the pro market.
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Apple is stating they have the best per core performance in the industry. We'll have to see if independent testing supports that claim or if it's just hyperbole.

A closer look at the new Mac Mini shows it is inferior in several ways to the existing Intel based Minis. It appears to only have one Thunderbolt 3 bus and two ports vs the 2 busses and 4 ports of the Intel models. These new models also don't have an option for 10GBe ethernet. I wonder if Apple is finally going to release the mid-tier desktop below the Mac Pro that people have been hoping for.

It costs less and will be more than fast enough for it's intended audience, but I think I am going to wait to see some independent FCPX benchmarks before I make the leap. There is talk of Apple releasing a new version of FCPX Summit next week. They have a special Apple day with a special "Live From Apple Park: What’s New in Apple Pro Video" session planned for Thursday so it looks it's possible we will get a screaming new version of FCPX optimized for Apple Silicon.

https://www.fcpxcreativesummit.com
 
I ordered the new Mac Mini that I will use with my 42" Samsung 4K HDR TV . I still have my old trash can Mac Pro with 6 core, D500 , 64GB RAM and two 28" 4K Dell monitors.
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