Anyone using Shake?
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The power and control is absolutely insane. The node based interface takes a bit of getting used to, but i'm starting to like the flow.loyd_christmas
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Re: Anyone using Shake?
what would you say has a steeper learning curve ae or shake. i just opened an ae book for the first time , so i know next to nothing , and i am completly blind when it comes to shake. i guess what i am asking is, shake being so much more powerful would i be better of trying to tackle ae first then move on to shake. or would i be better of learning shake from the get go as my first and possibly only compositing program ?
what would you say has a steeper learning curve ae or shake. i just opened an ae book for the first time , so i know next to nothing , and i am completly blind when it comes to shake. i guess what i am asking is, shake being so much more powerful would i be better of trying to tackle ae first then move on to shake. or would i be better of learning shake from the get go as my first and possibly only compositing program ?
Caveman
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Re: Anyone using Shake?
Oh great ... Kai's leaving to go start a shake forum.
Actually, I really miss shake. I worked on shake for 3 years at my old post house, but couldn't fit it into my budget when I went out on my own.
So now I'm on AE and combustion. Combustion is closer to shake than anything out there and it gives you a head start if you ever want to get on a flame or other discreet app. Have fun Kai, I know we'll be seeing less of you !!
loyd- You can't really compare shake and AE on a learning curve. They really are completely separate tools. I don't think learning AE would help
learning shake down the road, the workflows are totally different. If you think you want to learn shake down the road but don't want to drop $3500 right now , I'd start with Combustion, it's moderately priced, just as many bells and whistles as AE, and more similar to the Shake workflow. It really depends on your applications as well. If you want to make compositing your full time gig, go Shake or Combustion, if you are just wanting to add a little "spice" to your projects, you'd probably want to go AE. Also, if you are familiar with photoshop then AE should come pretty easy for you.
Hope I haven't complicated your decision, good luck ;D CAVEMAN ;D
Oh great ... Kai's leaving to go start a shake forum.
Actually, I really miss shake. I worked on shake for 3 years at my old post house, but couldn't fit it into my budget when I went out on my own.
So now I'm on AE and combustion. Combustion is closer to shake than anything out there and it gives you a head start if you ever want to get on a flame or other discreet app. Have fun Kai, I know we'll be seeing less of you !!
loyd- You can't really compare shake and AE on a learning curve. They really are completely separate tools. I don't think learning AE would help
learning shake down the road, the workflows are totally different. If you think you want to learn shake down the road but don't want to drop $3500 right now , I'd start with Combustion, it's moderately priced, just as many bells and whistles as AE, and more similar to the Shake workflow. It really depends on your applications as well. If you want to make compositing your full time gig, go Shake or Combustion, if you are just wanting to add a little "spice" to your projects, you'd probably want to go AE. Also, if you are familiar with photoshop then AE should come pretty easy for you.
Hope I haven't complicated your decision, good luck ;D CAVEMAN ;D
BEENYWEENIES
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Re: Anyone using Shake?
Shake rules, the node based setup is very cool and makes building out complex composites very interesting. This alone is what makes it a different beast in terms of learning curve, to answer loyd's question. Node based operations are nothing new to people using combustion or other discreet products, but for someone from the Adobe products realm it is a ltotally new realm. If you are interested in learning Shake, prime yourself for it by opening the "node view" in AE and working with that for a while. You can do this by clicking the node view button on the viewer window.
Shake rules, the node based setup is very cool and makes building out complex composites very interesting. This alone is what makes it a different beast in terms of learning curve, to answer loyd's question. Node based operations are nothing new to people using combustion or other discreet products, but for someone from the Adobe products realm it is a ltotally new realm. If you are interested in learning Shake, prime yourself for it by opening the "node view" in AE and working with that for a while. You can do this by clicking the node view button on the viewer window.
sugahsean469
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Re: Anyone using Shake?
Getting use to nodes gave me a headache--and I still havent got the hang of it as much as I want to. I actually bought the Apple Shake training book by Marco Paolini, and well--lets just say I need a lot more training. Chris Maynard of CMIVFX Studios(www.cmivfx.com) sells tutorial CD's on Shake and I definitely want to buy those(I'll have to wait until I'm done buying a bunch of hardware for my next film). If you can commit using this--its supposedly more powerful than say, AE. I think the only thing I sort of got a hold of is using it chromakeying functions(awesome!!) and its motion tracking functions(also awesome!!). If anything, be prepared to devoting a lot of MONTHS to learning the program. My last few jobs have either not required any fx at all or basic fx, which at the most, I just do in FCP or AE.
Getting use to nodes gave me a headache--and I still havent got the hang of it as much as I want to. I actually bought the Apple Shake training book by Marco Paolini, and well--lets just say I need a lot more training. Chris Maynard of CMIVFX Studios(www.cmivfx.com) sells tutorial CD's on Shake and I definitely want to buy those(I'll have to wait until I'm done buying a bunch of hardware for my next film). If you can commit using this--its supposedly more powerful than say, AE. I think the only thing I sort of got a hold of is using it chromakeying functions(awesome!!) and its motion tracking functions(also awesome!!). If anything, be prepared to devoting a lot of MONTHS to learning the program. My last few jobs have either not required any fx at all or basic fx, which at the most, I just do in FCP or AE.
Taylor Moore
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Re: Anyone using Shake?
Yeah Shake is the stik...i used to use it in a command line configuration on a SGI WAY BACK in the beginning of nothing real.
I have not used the GUI version yet....
Good luck.
Yeah Shake is the stik...i used to use it in a command line configuration on a SGI WAY BACK in the beginning of nothing real.
I have not used the GUI version yet....
Good luck.