Any huge cinematography websites/books?

Honestly, I think that cinematography is something that is very easily conveyed through text, pictures, and DVD. Look at Tom Anton's videos, simple stuff but some of the most needed stuff to come across Youtube lately. There's not really much to it, you write a book, and throw in some pictures representing what looks bad and what looks good ex. "Picture A shows what happens when a frame is otherwise set up correctly but the camera is a positioned a bit too low, bringing the camera up a foot looks more pleasing to the eye as shown in Picture B." and it becomes the same thing that billions of lighting books have been. Almost like a photography tutorial that's geared toward shots that correlate with other shots in the scene or location.

And yeah, I think that cinematography is the #1 most important components of film, you can take away absolutely everything involving the filmmaking process (lights, sound, actors, equipment) but at the end of the day, if you take away the camera, you don't have a film. That doesn't mean all factors aren't important, it just means that even if it's by just a bit, what you do with the camera can make or break a film in many eyes, while everything else can be adapted into easier methods for the shooter's style. And the reality is that many shots are surprisingly shot like this, like I said, you can take a DSLR outside on an overcast day without any tools whatsoever and get some amazing footage for a scene that doesn't even require dialogue. The entire first 10 minutes of one of my scripts has no talk, just music, and involves this girl wandering through the woods and sitting in fields, it's practically a moving picture (a Youtube collage through and through) and will require nothing but a camera, an eye for what looks right, and good weather. In this instance, I'd say having an actor is importance #2!

Which brings it to the the reality that footage like that doesn't require years of training, it just requires some quick rules that lay down the absolute no-no's and help you know what's right for faces, shots that correlate, perception differences, emotional tributes, ect ect. For instance, if you watch RIP (a great DSLR short film by a young cinematographer who truly has some skills - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7w_6Y1HcFs ), the entire short film was shot using his family as actors and using a vacation location as the location, and I think I remember him saying that he had a reflector and a small tripod at most - not much different than many scenes in Hills Green. But his angle techniques and motions are spot on, and I think that is honestly just an incredibly important factor - a major hollywood studio would probably look at that short film and just by the visuals alone go "wow." And while the script is decent and not over the top by much, it still just the regular cheese. It's not like you can pack Harry Potter into a 5 minute short film, sometimes the visuals have to speak for themselves without words or studio sets, or even a complex script.
 
And yeah, I think that cinematography is the #1 most important components of film, you can take away absolutely everything involving the filmmaking process (lights, sound, actors, equipment) but at the end of the day, if you take away the camera, you don't have a film.

Interesting points. Not entirely to turn this into an argument of semantics, but I don't believe you can record just anything and at the end have yourself a 'film'. Just like you can't turn on a sound recorder and have yourself a song. You'll have some clips that may or may not be useful to maybe add to a whole, but you'll need some sort of roadmap and subjects, living or inanimate, to take a viewer from point A to B. Maybe you'll have a clip to post on YouTube, but I don't think anyone would mistake it as a 'film'.
 
I think what's missing here is the definition of cinematography:

Cinematography: the art and technology of motion-picture photography. It involves such techniques as the general composition of a scene; the lighting of the set or location; the choice of cameras, lenses, filters, and film stock; the camera angle and movements; and the integration of any special effects. All these concerns may involve a sizable crew on a feature film, headed by a person variously known as the cinematographer, first cameraman, lighting cameraman, or director of photography, whose responsibility is to achieve the photographic images and effects desired by the director.

Source: http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/118048/cinematography

What you're asking about is camera operating. You can't discuss cinematography in its entirety without discussing lighting. Period.

Kegan
 
What you're asking about is camera operating. You can't discuss cinematography in its entirety without discussing lighting. Period.

The OP isn't looking to discuss cinematography in its entirety, just advanced composition and visual strategy--definitely within the realm of the cinematographer. Again, The Filmmaker's Eye and The Visual Story are the go-to books for this.
 
Blain Brown is very good both his lighting and cinematography.

Millerson book: lighting for TV and film.

The camera Assistant by ELKINS.

all ready good.
 
Honestly, I think this is an emergency topic; where in the world is the education for cinematography?

Hey, here you can check out all sorts of cinematography information. All in form of video tutorials. Everything from Shot Design to FRAMING, specific LIGHTING, using NATURAL LIGHT etc. Some is for low budget filmmakers and some for industry pros








Here is the link to the whole playlist:
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=3AF9B2B010B69D0C
 
nice can you get dvd for the uk tho???

I ordered it as a download, can play on my Mac, then burnt to DVD which worked fine on my UK DVD player and UK TV. I believe the format it NTSC but these days most players and TVs can cope with that even in the UK... and if not, you can always play on the computer.

Cheers, Hywel.
 
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