Andromeda + G35?

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lucidz

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Would you gain anything by pairing these two technologies? I am simply curious if having the incredibly higher resolution of the andromeda would even be utilized with the softer G35 look?
 
Both of these tools are on the cutting edge of videography. I'm waiting for the G35 to come onto the market as well. It's a static adaptor and may loose less on the light issue. As for Andromeda - it's simply amazing!
 
Don't know, as I haven't seen Redrock's. However, I can say that they're DIFFERENT -- the G35 is a static ground glass, the Micro35 is rotating. That right there puts them in a different category.

I look forward to testing both products. Regardless of optical performance there may still be reasons that you'd prefer one over the other, so "better" is an issue that has to be looked at in context with the user's intended purpose.
 
I'm not a fan of Andromeda. They have been misleading with their advertizing claims.
It's 4:4:4 in SD or 4:1:1 in the upfuzzed version of HD. NOT 4:4:4 in HD as many have been led to believe. That's called "hype" where I come from.

As for the lens adapters... Static only means it doesn't move, yet leaves the implication that it doesn't need to. But, should it move? Are they just choosing to call it something for the sake of a sale. I don't know. I scrutinize every product so I don't get burned, that just the way I am. Making big claims about something always gathers the folks who will believe anything.. Ever hear about getting rich in real estate? See what I mean. My 0.0175 + tax.

I'm really looking forward to Barry's review.
 
I'm a little confused as to what is meant by "4:1:1...upfuzzed version of HD." 4:4:4 means not having any compression after A/D in the picture, doesn't it?
 
DDH, 4:4:4 refers to full chrominance and full luminance. There are two steps in compression: 1) throw out some of the chroma 2) Apply a JPEG like compression.

The Andromeda does export compressionless footage but to get a HD frame the image has to use pixel shift and interpolation making the effective # of chrominance samples less than the luminance.
 
Aaron (Shaw) is right. If you want a 4:4:4 camera, buy a Sony 1080i FX-1, and convert the 1920x1080i 4:2:0 to 720x480P 4:4:4. It can be done the exact same way (only in reverse) as what Real Stream is doing with the Andromeda. Of course, the Sony is compressed and Andromeda output is uncompressed, but to do *anything* practical with Andromeda recordings you need to compress them into a format editors are familiar with... so, in my view, it's better to buy a 1080i HDV camera than an Andromeda. Better yet, get an HVX200!!
 
Thanks for the info Shaw & Wells. I'm definitely going for the HVX200 when it comes out. I just hope it's not going to be modified as the original DVX (I love my DVX but it's damn near impossible to hands-on pull focus or zoom) was a short time after it came out. I think those bugs were worked out and will not be prevalent on the HVX.
 
Hmm wait, for thoes of us not so techniclly inclined, The Andromeda, can produce HD out of camera? or is it an operation you do i n post. Cause i seenthe grabs of th andromeda in 444 and its really great. but i was not sure if it was HD or not.
 
Yes, the Andromeda can do HD out of camera. It will only be 4:2:2 color sampling though due to the processing necessary to get the HD frame. 4:2:2 is the same as DVCproHD in terms of how much color is retained. The benefit of the Andromeda over DVCpro is the absolute lack of compression. It's hard to tell which will be worth it in the end.
 
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