Alternative to burning dvd's the hard way...

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PimpDaddyDA

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Try this one on...

I'm soooo burned out with wasting time trying to burn my flic on dvd.... errors.... crashes.... etc.... sure, you can burn a small flic...
but try burning a 2.5 hour movie on a 8.5 dvd..?? No way...

SOLUTION:

$ 299 Sony DVR, records 8.5 GB dvds!! rdr-vx515 also has a built in vcr for copies....

All you have to do is lower the light on a few scenes to remove any flicker... (unit does not record progressive)

I've done it... and I love it!! Record your dvd in full real time, no stress, perfect copy everytime!!!

And the unit has adjustable record settings to max your dvd!

HQ/HSP/SP/EP/...etc...etc.... Really easy. Cheaper than buying authoring software.....

Might save some stress for somebody out there tired of screwing around with authoring problems......
 
What is the quality like in HQ mode ?

Can you let us know the HQ specs ?

My guess would be that it is compressed to hell and back to achieve the realtime record / burn.

This is probably a very good solution for a "quick and dirty" DVD burn tho. Great suggestion.
 
Actually, it loooks good! I'm really shocked. I'm burning a 2.5 hour movie using the HSP mode. (8.5 GB disk) HQ is the highest and best, then HSP, then SP, etc...etc... It records exactly what you see.... digital recording, not a digital creation...... but because it is not a progressive recording, I have to go into the movie and lower the brightness levels on a few scenes where it is really bright. (removes the small light strobbing which occurs, similar to going to tape)

I may have tapped into a process that will bypass hours of stress and financial burden for the low budget Indy film makers out there....

like me!

Pimp Daddy D

On the way to Sundance..........
 
Anyone know if there is a heap of compression ( degradation) involved in this process ?

I figure there must be or else the realtime encode and burn to DVD would be available in authoring software.

What type of input goes into the Sony DVR from what output in your NLE, PimpD ? Analogue ?, Firewire ?, XXX? (My guess it aint digital but maybe it is ...)

Check your results on a big screen before Sndance is what I suggest and dont fall at the final hurdle to the big time by inferior picture quality.
 
Picture is sweet. I'm running the firewire to the camera, then the camera output to the Sony. 3 RCA input or S-video in the Sony. Also has a firewire input, but it needs to control the camera... and the image is coming from the computer, so I can't use it.

I tell PPRO not to control the camera..... export to tape, and take the image off the camera right to the Sony. I recorded at HSP, which is one step down from HQ. Picture is fine. If the movie was under 2 hours, I could use the HQ format and get a better picture. Sound is A1.

I don't think there is major compression, because the recorder isn't creating a dvd, but rather copying the input image to dvd.

It records any image at any speed..... just like it records off of television. Perfect copy.

Is this a break thru or what?

I'm loving it..... BIG TIME.
 
Note on the authoring software:

I'm sure they have a way to do it.... BUT... they'll saturate the market with the crap first.... then issue the good stuff later...forcing all of us to buy more...more... and more software!
 
There is compression. What you’re doing is running DV into your camera, converting it to analog, and then sending an analog signal to your DVR, which then must compress to MPEG-2 for DVD burning. It’s hardware compression, so it’s real-time, no sweat, but it’s compressed.

You definitely want to use S-Video if you’re going to do it this way. Composite (RCA) will just be ugly.

If you’re happy with the results, then great, but considering all the processing this picture is going through, I’d be surprised if it’s actually as good a quality as you can get by authoring it yourself.

Also, on a progressive-scan TV, you’ll see the difference between a progressive picture and an interlaced picture.

To say nothing of the impossibility of encoding a 5.1 surround track, and of limited menu/content options.

So, like I said, if you’re loving it, then great. It works for you and more power to you.

But a breakthrough for the indy filmmaker? Too many compromises for my taste.
 
As I suspected.

Still a good idea for quick and dirty burns tho' apart from the complicated signal routing (which can probaby be overcome more elegantly some otherway) .
 
Thanks... I am getting a very nice picture.... really.
I'll try the S-video and see if there is a difference....
I used the 3 RCA outputs on the camera.... isn't it the same thing?

My new problem, is: the dvd stopped playing right at the half way mark.
8.5GB disk, at HSP speed... stopped at 1:23.30 right in the middle.

I think that is where it does the cross over to the 2nd layer of writing area.

I'm trying a different disk and see what happens....


Always something..... but the picture really does look nice.
 
By the way...

DVD burn problem solved... I use Fuji in my Sony... no more TDK.

I'm getting a really good picture. I put 2.5 hours on 1 disk. It's not compressing the data.... The drive is recording at a slower rate, which allows more time on the disk. It's recording the analog output, BUT, the analog output is from a digital source, so the the analog is really clear.

I really think it looks great and sounds great. Plus, I burn in real time, no stress, no encoding bullshit or crashing or new software to buy, etc...etc....

When I sell the flic, I'll let the distributor worry about making a final product with chapters and 5.1 sound...etc...

I'll take the stress free road everytime.
 
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