Almost Faked Out!

jlames

Well-known member
Anyone who has read my posts knows that it's not like me to bad-mouth anyone. I'm so appreciative of the help you all provide and this is a great forum but when today happens, well, I can't stand by and not warn you. I've been putting together my audio setup with lots of help from Joe Kras, The Yankee and others. So today I decided to amble down to the Sunset Blvd Guitar Center where I had a great discusson with "Gong" there (yes, that his real name!) and finally settled on a matched pair of Oktava 012s. instead of the Rode I was originally after. I mean they were on blow-out special with hyper caps! Anyway, after he brought them out, I inspected them and, remembering the pages I saw in dvxused on fakes, I walked outside and retrieved my laptop. Hooking up wirelessly, I called up the dvxuser board from Guitar Center and lo and behold, there was the page on fakes. As I scrolled down, item by item listed on that page was there proving that the Guitar Center mics I had in my hot little hands were indeed merely Chinese fakes.

I brought this to the attention of Gong who apologized and asked if I wanted to go with the Rode instead. Not knowing how I would know that the Rode was real, I of course declined and asked to see the manager. After a few moments, Richard, the Manager appeared. A likable sort, I told him of the problem. After I had finished, he informed me that he already knew they were fakes stating, "Yeah, that's pretty much why we're dropping the whole line. I get these directly from Oktava and since they insist on sending me these fakes, we've dropped their entire line.

Now dropping their line is a great move but the problem lies in the fact that had I not been an informed shopper through the great people at dvxuser, I'd have gotten screwed because his own sales person, Gong, didn't even know enough to tell me, presumably because his manager never told him. So the issue I have is that, Guitar Center, an institution in Hollywood and the whole Hollywood scene for more than 50 years, is knowingly ripping people off by selling them equipment they know to be fakes. How freaking unfortunate is that but is just goes to show the power of the Internet and the power of people who have come together under banners like dvxuser to help and protect others.

Am I a "PROFESSIONAL" sound guy. No. And I may not have even noticed the difference between the fakes and the real thing. But the fact of the matter is that as a consumer I have the right to expect "Professionals" like those at Guitar Center to give me what I pay for and not something that they know is a fake. So for those of you out there considering Guitar Center or any other establishment for that matter, two words for you; Run Screaming Into the Night! (OK five words) Your best defense against these people is to read everything there is to read in this forum and others and buyer beware. The Sound Room...Here I come and thanks dvxusers for helping me avoid getting ripped off! And if Guitar Center reads this and thinks of suing me, two things you should know. 1) I had a friend there with me listening to the whole conversation and 2), There was a man and his wife there at the counter just to my right who also heard the conversation I was having with the manager and decided to leave the store without their intended purchases. He gave me their names and phone number as two witnesses to the story. Bottom line Guitar Center; we're coming together to protect our interests because you in corporate America simply don't care. This is not what I spent 10 years in the Marine Corp for.
 
Glad you didn't get completely burned. Should start pointing people to this thread when suggesting they consider the Oktava.

Best
 
Wow. That's a bummer. I haven't dealt with Guitar Center since back in my college days, and the only thing I bought from there was drumsticks cause the guys in the drum section at the Lincoln Park one in Chicago didn't know $#!t about drums. That's neither here nor there.

If you are looking for reputable sound places, there are lots in the L.A. area. Of course, there's where I work (Coffey Sound), but you also have Location Sound, Coast Recording, West L.A. Music (only been to the one in Universal City), RSPE, and Colossal Sound for used gear. I'm sure there are more, but that's just what I could think of off the top of my head quickly.

Other places I would recommend across the country are Trew Audio in Nasheville, Gotham Sound in New York, and ATS Communications in DC.

-Dave
 
Thanks. I'm headed to the Big Apple (where the he** did that name come from anyway?!?!) on Friday morning for the weekend so I'll stop into Gotham Sound. Where are they and do you want me to say hi to anyone for you?
Jonathan
 
jlames said:
Thanks. I'm headed to the Big Apple (where the he** did that name come from anyway?!?!) on Friday morning for the weekend so I'll stop into Gotham Sound. Where are they and do you want me to say hi to anyone for you?
Jonathan


Talk with Jim Guzzie. Tell him Dave from Coffey Sound says hi. Their phone number is (212) 629-9430. I've never been there, so I have no idea how to get to their place.


-Dave
 
No. That was Roland Mitijesan (I think that's how you spell his name). He's a fellow audio dealer in Europe. He's a really cool guy. We spent the night talking about beer.


That was the RAMPS party, and I don't remember seeing the Gotham guys there, but that was way back in April, and I wasn't at that deal for the whole time. They did come by our booth at the show. I really like the Gotham guys. Again, if you live in NYC, or around there, that's the place to go.

-Dave
 
No. They are the ones made in Russia. I think everyone in here who has ordered from Sound Room has been happy as far as I can tell.

Steve
 
Seems to me I remember seeing a thing on the Soundroom site that had all of the identifiers for the fakes. I also remember reading somewhere (either here or RAMPS) that Guitar Center was known for selling the fakes.

Also, I do want to compliment Dave Fisk. It is nice to see that he doesn't just put in a plug for Coffey (though I will...every time I have had any dealings with them, it has been first rate).

Phil
 
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